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Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
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Mar 16, 2024, 11:33 AM
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Going into a big day of championships, Clemson is projected as an 8-seed for both ESPN and CBS Sports now.
For ESPN, the Tigers are pegged to take on Dayton in a Brooklyn pod with 1-seed UConn and 16-seed Stetson within the East Region (Boston). South Carolina (5) and Charleston (13) are possible Sweet 16 matchups from the other pod.
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2024-march-madness-men-field-predictions
For CBS Sports, Clemson is picked to take on Mississippi State in a Memphis pod with 1-seed Houston and 16-seed Longwood in the South Region (Dallas). Duke is in the pod that can be a Sweet 16 matchup.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Clemson NCAA Tournament resume
Record: 21-11 Road/neutral record: 9-7 Strength of schedule: 22 Record vs. NET Quadrant 1: 5-4 (Wins: 80-76 at No. 7 UNC; 85-77 at No. 9 Alabama; 85-68 versus No. 26 Boise State at home; 74-66 versus No. 43 TCU at neutral site; 79-70 at No. 41 Pitt) Quadrant 3/4 losses: 1 (93-90 to No. 127 GT at home) Result-based metric average: 28 Predictive metric average rank: 31.5 NET ranking: 36 Non-conference record: 10-1 (Metrics per WarrenNolan.com)
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
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Mar 16, 2024, 11:56 AM
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Thankfully that the NET teaches us that the first 10 games (1/3rd of the season) matter the most. Otherwise, Clemson may not even get a home game in the NIT (sarcasm)
The irony of the NET (and the flaws of the selection process) are so glaringly apparent in Clemson basketball. Back to back seasons of nearly identical overall success. Yet, last year we were told Clemson was barely on the bubble (Next Four Out) and this year a composite of all projections have us as a 6 seed. It doesn't add up. (IMO, we deserve a 9,10 seed both this year and last).
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Last years team was better***
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:04 PM
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
Mar 16, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Last year's team lost 3 games to some of the worst teams in the NCAA that year. This year's team managed to avoid that particular brand of ignominy, but came up with all new ones (well, old ones all over again because we've seen this movie many times before).
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I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:01 PM
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I’ll be disappointed with an 8 seed.
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Judge what do you think it going on with this team?
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:04 PM
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The Boston College game was a nightmare. I made myself watch the whole thing so I'd stop feeling bad for Brad if he got fired.
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It was horrible. We didnt seem prepared at all.***
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Re: I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:06 PM
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I hope you're right, I'd be surprised but elated. I'll take a 6 or 7 seed, even a 10 or 11 seed but dread an 8 or 9.
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Re: I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:28 PM
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Curious; If we end up a 8 or worse, would you be disappointed in the play that put in the lower seed or disappointed that the selection committee would put us in at a lower seed?
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Disappointed in our play.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:58 PM
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I think we deserve better than a 8 seed based on our resume, but regardless of our seed, I am already disappointed in our play recently. Losing 3 of our last 4 is very concerning heading into the NCAA Tournament.
We have to get our mojo back ASAP.
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Re: Disappointed in our play.
Mar 16, 2024, 2:29 PM
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There is no mojo.
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Re: I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
Mar 16, 2024, 12:41 PM
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I would be ecstatic with a 6 or 7 seed, but 8 or 9 is more realistic. As poorly as we finished the season, I'll just be glad if we get in the tournament. Go Tigers!!!
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8 or 9 is only more realistic if someone is an overly pessimistic fan.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:59 PM
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We are likely to be a better seed than that.
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Re: 8 or 9 is only more realistic if someone is an overly pessimistic fan.
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Mar 16, 2024, 2:19 PM
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Our NET corresponds with the last 9th team seeded. You used your Kamala gif on anyone suggesting we’d be less than a 5 seed before the ACC tourney. You’re a propagandist - not the basketball fan some continue to mistake you for.
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Re: 8 or 9 is only more realistic if someone is an overly pessimistic fan.
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Mar 16, 2024, 2:22 PM
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I’m one who has been predicting 8 seed. To be a 6 seed, you would have to believe that we are one of the 24 teams in the tournament with the best resumes. I think we blew that over the past two weeks, but it still may be good enough for an 8 seed. I’m not pessimistic. I’m a statistics guy, and I think that’s where the statistics point. If I’m wrong and we get a 6 seed, I will be surprised but happy.
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Re: I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:58 PM
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I’ll be disappointed with an 8 seed.
Why???? Since the start of January, this Team is a .500 Ball Club! With horrific last minute choke jobs on multiple occasions!!!!!! Clemson’s Guard Play has generally been subpar! Girard is a Defensive liability with POOR Dribbling Skills!!!! And Hunter completely DISAPPEARS too often!
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Re: I expect a 6 or 7 seed at this point.
Mar 16, 2024, 2:30 PM
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Don't forget our post player jacking up 10 3's per game and missing almost all of them.
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Which means
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:34 PM
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*drumroll please*
Clemson will absolutely NOT take on Dayton in a “Brooklyn pod”
LOL
This crap is so stupid. Just wait until tomorrow night.
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Re: Which means
Mar 16, 2024, 3:42 PM
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“This crap is so stupid”
You would know.
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:50 PM
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Clemson is a 6-seed with the BracketMatrix average currently, but not too far from the 7-seed range now: http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
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The Athletic has us a 6 seed.***
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
Mar 16, 2024, 12:54 PM
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No need to look at later rounds in any projection. CBB’s coaching history says he’s one and done in most NCAAT appearances. 3-6 all-time with seven one and done trips. Won one game once and two once. Doesn’t exactly exude confidence. He seem to love to make things hard on himself and teams. Could have had a much better chance for at least one win as the six seed. That 8-9 matchup is a nightmare in comparison.
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
Mar 16, 2024, 12:56 PM
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The really frustrating part is this team is capable of beating any team on any given day. We are our own worst enemy. We stop ourselves more than the other team stopping us.
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Re: Latest Clemson NCAAs resume/bracketology
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Mar 16, 2024, 12:58 PM
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We'll probably get the 8 seed due to the BC game collapse and the fact that Clemson basketball doesn't have a strong history. Selection committees are never unbiased and always take into count a programs previous success/failures.
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