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How we die
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Jan 16, 2024, 4:30 PM
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Interesting article on the physical mechanics of brain death. Sort of the brain, knowing time is up, conducts an orderly shutdown of itself. A mental suicide, or self-destruct, of sorts.
My question is who, or what, is the last guy out of the room who turns the lights out? That is, once your consciousness is gone, what is in control of the death processes at that point? Some mechanical auto-pilot? Or some mysterious force beyond our own consciousness? It can't be your own consciousness because that is gone before any of this stuff happens.
It's related to sleeping. Where are 'you' while 'you' are asleep? Something is still running your body, but it's not your conscious self. So what is it?
TLDR version: What the he77 is going on here?
https://www.newsweek.com/neuroscientists-discover-source-wave-death-end-consciousness-1852202
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Re: How we die
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Jan 16, 2024, 4:47 PM
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>My question is who, or what, is the last guy out of the room who turns the lights out? That is, once your consciousness is gone, what is in control of the death processes at that point? Some mechanical auto-pilot? Or some mysterious force beyond our own consciousness? It can't be your own consciousness because that is gone before any of this stuff happens.
Unless I'm misunderstanding your questions, it sounds like you are presuming that our consciousness was in control of any of these processes to begin with which I don't think is the case.
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Re: How we die
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Jan 16, 2024, 5:04 PM
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Yeah I sort of scrambled things there.
We aren't in control of most of the bodily stuff at any time anyway...heart rate, breathing, etc. So there's always an element of some 'mystery driver' of your body.
What I was trying to get at was, once the 'mystery driver' is also gone, and all of the body has been shut down, what, if anything, is behind that?
It's like digging into matter. First you get down to the molecules, then the atoms, then subatomic particles, then the elementary particles; and every time you think you've hit the bottom the hole just gets deeper and deeper.
Same with consciousness. Once you dig below consciousness, you get to whatever is running the body, and once that shuts down, is there something behind that still? If the brain cortex is the last guy in the room, is it telling itself to shut down, or is there something even deeper controlling it?
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Posting on this board, you would seem to be thinking about
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Jan 17, 2024, 9:53 AM
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the non physical aspects of death. The article mentions near death experiences, and while no one can know, I've always thought those were likely naturally occurring. If God exists, He knows when it's time, and I wouldn't think there would be an "oops, back you go" aspect of the event. But who knows.
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