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Apostasy

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Feb 14, 2024, 5:25 PM
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Technically apostasy has been going on since Paul's time but the culmination or zenith of the falling away will not be realized until antichrist is revealed and people start getting hungry but can't buy food without the mark. Esau sold his birthright over food. In John 6:66, certain followers (fraudulent) of Jesus stopped following Him after an exchange that began with Him calling them out because they only sought after Him for free bread. The evil servant in Matthew 24:48 expects an early arrival of the Lord (sound familiar?) and when it does not happen, the evil servant begins to do what? Turn on his fellow servants and eat & drink with the drunken. If this is a tribulation time period, how is the evil servant able to eat & drink with the enemy unless they took the mark?

Matthew 13:20-21 tells us that the seeds on the rocks produce plants with no root and they wither in tribulation & persecution. They become "offended". Cross reference this with Matthew 24:9-10...many shall be offended and do what?? Betray each other...just like the evil servant in Matthew 24:48. And just like the people in Daniel 11:30 who forsake the holy covenant and "have intelligence" with the beast.

The evil servant expects an early arrival of the Lord....that pertains to eschatological wrong doctrine like pre trib & mid trib. Hymenaeus & his friends, the first preterists were also associated with apostasy due to the heresy they supported. Ecclesiastes tells us that there is nothing new under the sun and that the thing that hath been shall be. All 3 of these heresies (pre trib, mid trib, & preterism) will have a large stake in the falling away because these teachings naturally attract false converts into the fold. That's not to say that all who currently follow these teachings will be exposed as frauds. Some will "see the light" and remain faithful. But many of the fallen away ones will come from these camps because 2 of these errors promise an early escape and the other one promises that all that scary stuff in Revelation already happened by 70 AD. All 3 are sowing seeds on the rocks.

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Re: Apostasy

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Feb 14, 2024, 5:48 PM
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Pre-trib & mid-trib... apostasy??? Next thing you will say is no one is saved if they don't speak in tongues.

Paul also teaches that the anti-christ cannot be revealed until the One who restrains is removed. That being the Holy Spirit. True believers are sealed for the Day of Redemption by the Holy Spirt and will not be left behind when the Trumpet sounds.

The dispensation of the church age is clearly represented in revelation with Philadelphia being informed they will be saved from the Day of Wrath. The seventh church will be "vomited" out of the mouth of Christ... because of "their" indifference to God and His truth. Not all will be vomited out... some will overcome and sit on the throne with Christ.

Revelation is clear that the tribulation occurs after the church is gone. "After these things..."

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If God's Spirit sits upon the throne in your heart...

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Feb 15, 2024, 7:34 AM
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arguments about rapture, if and when, won't involve you.

It's nothing to stress about if you're like me, 71 yrs/o and having a birthday in a few months. However, back ~half a century ago I was a fresh Christian, full of hot sauce for my Lord and absorbing every piece of literature about the rapture, tribulations, signs and wonders leading to the last days.

God set me down one day and told me that if I really wanted Him to return to testify of His righteousness to lead the lost to repentance and the back-slidders to return to fellowship with Him. He made it clear that every soul belonging to Him is sealed by His Holy Spirit and that The Spirit Himself is the down payment on His promise, earnest, if you prefer the legal term. He won't lose a single one.

So I declare His righteousness to all here today; I testify of His everlasting mercy and His Truth. I have witnessed His faithfulness and patients firsthand. To have taken the lowest of all creatures and saved me from my just desert is a miracle above dividing the sea, calming the winds and waves, healing the sick, giving sight to the blind and making the lame to walk for I am the example of God raising the dead to life!

Anyone who thinks they are hiding from Him should read Psalms 139 again and this time do it a little slower making sure you understand each verse.

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