Re: I think the term pandemic is not really well understood

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Nope. Would have thought it odd 5 years ago

Apr 27, 2023, 10:09 AM

Today, not at all.

Where "they" went off the rails IMO was not being candid from day one. There is a whole segment on information management, and that is where it all went to crap IMO.

When the pandemic erupted there was an almost immediate disconnect between scientific information, and media information, and that continued, branching into sects in the media, and later was linearly politicized. Fact is the media could not talk frankly about scientific information, because that would cause a panic, so they hedged, omitted, and came up with the best phrase ever, "there is no evidence". Then people stopped believing the media, (MSM), and then diverged into universes that fit ideologies. When you see anyone say "there is no evidence" they're lying through omission. There is no evidence because you seek no evidence. You seek no evidence specifically so you can say there is no evidence. That way you can mislead people into thinking something isn't so, when in fact it is. The CDC was famous for this. There is no evidence. Well no ####. You've never studied it. 100 other studies from 30 other countries have shown evidence, but hey, we're the CDC, we haven't bothered to study this, so there is no evidence. THEN, when the BS train runs out, they produce a study out of nowhere, giving evidence, and then they say "How could we have known? There was no evidence." People saw right through that crap.

It is what it is, and was what it was. No one trusts the CDC or government anymore, that's bipartisan btw. Fauci's biggest accomplishment I think has been single-handedly making everyone not trust him. Liberals, democrats, scientists, republicans, right down the list, from top to bottom. Everyone. That is an impressive feat. But also, people don't trust the media, which has always been the case.

20+ years as an investigator and you learn, everyone has an agenda. Everyone. Every. One. Only by investigating all sides, and locating disinterested parties especially, can one get to truth. The GOP is not disinterested. Biden is not disinterested. The CDC is not disinterested. China is not disinterested. Fox News, MSNBC, etc. are not disinterested. Trump is not disinterested. RFK, JR. is not disinterested. Bill Gates is not disinterested.

So who is disinterested? Well, know the interests, then look elsewhere. Overseas mainly. And academic egg heads are largely disinterested, especially overseas in countries we ignore. It is actually the main purpose for the existence of academic eggheads, but even they too can be corrupted. And by that I mean ones not funded by American dollars or shelled out based on policies or politics. Ones not under government control either. The other thing that helps is to watch actions, and ignore words. That is key as well. Actions speak louder than words, and that's not just a cliché statement. It's a fact, and we've all seen it.

We live in a world of interests, always have, and always will. You navigate that world by following the interests, and also by seeking independent sources. Unfortunately, in the US, that's not easy. Any source seeking independence attracts people, and when people are attracted to a message or idea, money always follows, and money corrupts. And that corrupts the interest, even if it is entirely benevolent in nature. And the more money we have, the less reliable are all sources of information as money follows eyes in the media and everywhere. Money is largely why the media is dead in the US. It kills information that detracts from money.

End of the day the actions taken have largely been adequate, given the whole situation. Two weeks (should have been two months) to bend the curve was important, and nearly universal, worldwide, among a world of interests. Masks and distancing after that was also adequate and necessary. Then everyone invented vaccines, not just the US. Once vaccines started, then restrictions could be reduced, and they were. The entire purpose of vaccines, with this virus, since day one, was to simply give people exposure, and SOME level of immunity. And that's what they did. After that, we live with it. And we are.

So that's just how it is/was. A virus, of all things, cuts right through our BS, the BS we're fed, and thrive on. It is not complicated, our interests, varied as they are, ARE complicated. The CDC lies, so many uninformed run to conspiracy theorists, who also thrive as money corrupts, and you place belief in one liar over the other and end up no better off. They too have an interest. Yep. And if Biden lies, Trump must be telling the truth, and we flock to him only to find he too lies, and has his own agenda and interests. Bad news, that impacts everyone, DOES NOT SELL. PERIOD. Money avoids bad news like the plague. Now bad news does sell, when promoting an interest, but if it's bad news for everyone, then it is shitcanned. And that is why Americans, above all others, with the largest variety of interests, and the deepest pockets, could not handle the pandemic well, at all. That's why we're in a recession now and no one will say it, except those with an interest to acquire power. But when they do, and their interests are promoted, guess what? Truth is still missing right along with candor.

And this all goes beyond covid. Our economy runs much the same way. Our politics. Our media. Our education system. Our families. Our churches even. The post earlier of the guy who thought he was buying a car when he was actually leasing it, that's the kind of stuff money loves. That doesn't happen in a candid car dealership, with a candid salesman, who informs his clients properly. Nope, the car dealer has an interest, and it ain't yours. My friend selling me a toxic mortgage in 2003 (trying to) had an interest to sell me that crap mortgage because he would get a higher commission. I politely declined, costing him thousands. But he was misled as well. And as I told him, and his older brother, "You won't be selling mortgages in 7 years". And he wasn't.

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I think the term pandemic is not really well understood

And honestly, labeling covid-19 a pandemic was probably accurate at first, but it's not really a pandemic as we are "taught", because we are taught pandemics end. We have been trained to think of pandemics like the Spanish FLu pandemic in 1918. That wasn't some new virus. It was a new, novel VARIANT of the influenza virus. As such, it was a singular variant, of a virus that's been around for thousands of years, in humans. So there are three classic "waves" and then it's gone.

Covid-19 is not, and was not like that, except at the beginning. It was a novel virus that circled the planet. A pandemic by definition. BUT, that's where the label should have stopped being used. Candor would have been to tell people this virus will now be around forever. And occasionally there well may be future pandemic covid variants, just as there may be novel flu variants that also cause pandemics.

Covid should be thought of in terms of being like influenza 2.0. At some point in time the first influenza virus jumped to humans. That was a pandemic. Every early new strain was likely novel, and it too was a pandemic. A pandemic of pandemics. Eventually we become immune to enough variants, that the disease dies down greatly. Covid probably started much like influenza started in humans. Only difference is this time we could record it, where influenza happened so long ago we have no clue when it began. But I expect both viruses were born, and progressed in a similar manner.

MuhSpiracy. Event 201.

What kind of pandemic were they planning for?***

Bat / Wet Market ... but in Brazil.

Oh, it was a coronavirus.***

Holy carp ... read George Fu Gao's bio ...

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That' odd ... don't you think ?***

Nope. Would have thought it odd 5 years ago

Noice.

SARS in 2003 was the first time I heard of pandemics.

First time I heard of them was probably in middle school

HS Western Civ. discussed The Plague / Black Death but US History…

I think the term pandemic is not really well understood

Is there a recap show covering Events 1 to 200?***

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