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I heard today Eric Motross died the other day
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:04 PM
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I hadn't seen it mentioned here and I am about as anti UNC as it gets but he was a nice player and seemed to be a well respected guy. Sad to see someone go so young
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Re: I heard today Eric Motross died the other day
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:07 PM
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Yea. Someone posted it here the other day. It is sad. The article said he was diagnosed with cancer in March and passed away Sunday, I think it was. That’s really quick. Makes you think.
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Re: I heard today Eric Motross died the other day
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Likely a "turbo cancer"...if you're not familiar with what that is, research it...it's clearly one of the many effects of the jab from what the world's top doctors and scientists are saying - the ones that aren't corrupted and paid by big Pharma, fyi.
Very sad indeed.
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Re: I heard today Eric Motross died the other day
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:34 PM
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We had a friend who was diagnosed with stomach cancer and passed away in 3 months. This was in 2011, well before anyone had even heard of the jab. But nice try at making this political.
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Ive known 3 people that died of pancreatic cancer within 6-9
Dec 20, 2023, 6:26 PM
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months of diagnosis, also all before the vaccine.
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Re: I heard today Eric Motross died the other day
Dec 20, 2023, 2:41 PM
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All I found was a wikipedia post about it being a myth and some guys on YouTube. You got a link to a research paper with clinical results that I can read through and take to my primary care doctor when I go for my physical in a few weeks?
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Here... (Link included)
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:57 PM
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"After reviewing the available literature, we are particularly concerned that certain COVID-19 vaccines may generate a pro-tumorigenic milieu (i.e., a specific environment that could lead to neoplastic transformation) that predisposes some (stable) oncologic patients and survivors to cancer progression, recurrence, and/or metastasis. This hypothesis is based on biological plausibility and fulfillment of the multi-hit hypothesis of oncogenesis (i.e., induction of lymphopenia and inflammation, downregulation of angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) expression, activation of oncogenic cascades, sequestration of tumor suppressor proteins, dysregulation of the RNA-G quadruplex-protein binding system, alteration of type I interferon responses, unsilencing of retrotransposable elements, etc.) together with growing evidence and safety reports filed to Vaccine Adverse Effects Report System (VAERS) suggesting that some cancer patients experienced disease exacerbation or recurrence following COVID-19 vaccination. In light of the above and because some of these concerns (i.e., alteration of oncogenic pathways, promotion of inflammatory cascades, and dysregulation of the renin-angiotensin system) also apply to cancer patients infected with SARS-CoV-2, we encourage the scientific and medical community to urgently evaluate the impact of both COVID-19 and COVID-19 vaccination on cancer biology and tumor registries, adjusting public health recommendations accordingly."
https://www.cureus.com/articles/209584-sars-cov-2-vaccination-and-the-multi-hit-hypothesis-of-oncogenesis?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transaction#!/
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Also here...
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Dec 20, 2023, 2:58 PM
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"We report on an aggressive, infiltrating, metastatic, and ultimately lethal basaloid type of carcinoma arising shortly after an mRNA vaccination for COVID-19. The wife of the patient, since deceased, gave the consent for publishing the case. The malignancy was of cutaneous origin and the case showed symptoms consistent with Bell’s palsy and trigeminal neuralgia beginning four days post-vaccination (right side head temporal pain). The temporal pain was suggestive for inflammation and impairment of T cell immune activation. Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) showed a vascular loop on the left lateral aspect of the 5th cranial root exit of cerebellopontine angle constituting presumably a normal variant and was considered as an unrelated factor to the right-sided palsy and pain symptoms that corresponded to cranial nerves V (trigeminal nerve) and VII (facial nerve). In this study we describe all aspects of this case and discuss possible causal links between the rapid emergence of this metastatic cancer and mRNA vaccination. We place this within the context of multiple immune impairments potentially related to the mRNA injections that would be expected to potentiate more aggressive presentation and progression of cancer. The type of malignancy we describe suggests a population risk for occurrence of a large variety of relatively common basaloid phenotype cancer cells, which may have the potential for metastatic disease. This can be avoidable with early diagnosis and adequate treatment. Since facial paralysis/pain is one of the more common adverse neurological events following mRNA injection, careful inspection of cutaneous/soft tissue should be conducted to rule out malignancy. An extensive literature review is carried out, in order to elucidate the toxicity of mRNA vaccination that may have led to the death of this patient. Preventive and precise routine clinical investigations can potentially avoid future mortalities."
https://www.excli.de/index.php/excli/article/view/6145
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Re: Also here...
Dec 20, 2023, 3:08 PM
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2 published cases out of millions of vaccinations. Got it. I'll stop drinking water so I don't drown.
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So when you asked for evidence you really didn't want it? Odd.
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Dec 20, 2023, 3:17 PM
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I don't know how many articles there are on it, I just stopped at a couple, but you clearly are not serious about it. It's not two cases out of millions of vaccinations. That's a truly absurd response. The first study was a review of several papers. Not a single case.
It's ok if you need to believe certain things.... that's none of my business, but your response is ridiculous and awkward.
If you ever become a truly critical person then you can look into research on how p53 and BRCA might be affected by the MRNA vaccines, which have lost favor since the big panic push.
But if you are one of those people who get weirdly defensive of the status quo.... don't trouble yourself as its not worth it to you.
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Re: So when you asked for evidence you really didn't want it? Odd.
Dec 20, 2023, 4:35 PM
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If your point is to be informed and you are including this information as just a casual interest, that's fine. However, if you are dead serious about what you provided and count it as absolute fact, please continue reading.
You stopped after a couple of articles. That's precisely the problem. The internet is a powerful tool in the hands of the wrong people. Do yourself and those that are important to you a favor and read the published medical journal studies. Not from big pharma, from the research institutes whose only incentive to publish that data is for the betterment of humankind. I'm begging you. You are making life affecting decisions based on the medical equivalent of trusting the My Pillow guy to tell you how satellite data transfers and network security function. This will not end well for you.
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Re: Also here...
Dec 20, 2023, 6:29 PM
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Solid,
I appreciate the effort to bring some real research into the conversation. However, all of your quotes are about possible concerns put forth in the abstract or hypothesis part of the paper.
If you look at the conclusion of this meta-analysis of previous papers, ity merely calls for further study to prevent any possible detrimental effects of mRNA vaccines. It expresses concern for the future but clearly not any causation.
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It's not "clearly." It's certainly possible and worth serious research though.
Dec 20, 2023, 3:39 PM
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Most people have been so thoroughly manipulated by pharma-media that even considering this would send them into a nervous paroxysm.
But the idea that it's impossible for an experimental vaccine that didn't complete anything approaching normal, long-term safety trials may have terrible side-effects that don't come out until months/years later is clearly delusional. Obviously it's possible. That's why they typically do long-term safety trials. Duh.
It was only approved as an "emergency." I'm quite happy I never got the vaccine, though we all know lots of people who seem totally unharmed by it. I hope it remains that way. Though it is true that all-cause mortality is way up since 2021. But correlation doesn't equal causation. It's enough to make you wonder though.
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Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
Dec 20, 2023, 6:15 PM
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Short for “post hoc, ergo propter hoc,” a Latin phrase meaning “after this, therefore because of this.” The phrase expresses the logical fallacy of assuming that one thing caused another merely because the first thing preceded the other.
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