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All-In [25230]
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Rank the Clemson coaches since 1917
Dec 6, 2012, 1:31 PM
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1. Ford 2. Howard 3. Pell 4. Cody 5. Donahue 6. hatfield 7. swinney 8. Bowden 9. Neely 10. West 11. Stewart 12. Saunders 13. Ingram 14. Parker
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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Can I get a reasoning behind Hatfield over Swinney?
Dec 6, 2012, 1:33 PM
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Not saying it's a crazy thought. Just wondering what your reasoning was.
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Well, I'm saying it's crazy. They are not even remotely
Dec 6, 2012, 2:00 PM
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close. Hatfield couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. First couple of years he had the most talented teams in Clemson history. By the third year, the recruits were gone and he was losing.
For some reason he was able to win 8 games his last season. We won every close game we played. It was very lucky. Our losses were horrible. 57-0 to FSU, 24-0 to UNC, a loss to Wake when Wake was horrible.
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Orange Blooded [2283]
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Speaking of crazy....
Dec 6, 2012, 3:30 PM
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I finally found out who Leslie Van Houten is- on the History Channel the other night
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Letterman [268]
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Where's hartins when we need him? He's actually seen all of
Dec 6, 2012, 1:34 PM
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those coaches walking the sidelines.
I think he was a freshman in 1917
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yeah I don't know anything about the old guys
Dec 6, 2012, 1:34 PM
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basically just went by their winning percentage. Could be more to the story on a lot of them
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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the Clemson coaches since 1917 are stupid and their
Dec 6, 2012, 1:40 PM
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breath stinks!
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West is 10? You're crazy. He took a good job and made it a
Dec 6, 2012, 1:45 PM
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rebuilding project.
1. Howard 2. Ford 3. Pell 4. Swinney 5. Hatfield 6. Bowden 7. Cody 8. Bowden 9. Donahue 10. Neeley 11. Stewart 12. West 13. Ingram 14. Parker
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Re: West is 10? You're crazy. He took a good job and made it a
Dec 6, 2012, 2:12 PM
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Actually West inherited a rebuilding project! Ken Hatfield was by FAR THE WORST RECRUITER that we have had at Clemson in my lifetime. When we got rid of him the cupboard was bare!
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Team Captain [454]
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He took over a 9 win club and 5 years later...3-8
Dec 6, 2012, 2:23 PM
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That's pretty bad
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Letterman [268]
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110%er [7913]
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my list---corrected with only one stinky Hatfield :-)
Dec 6, 2012, 1:45 PM
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1. Ford 2. Howard 3. Pell 4. swinney 5. Bowden 6. hatfield 7. Cody 8. Donahue 9. Neely 10. West 11. Stewart 12. Saunders 13. Ingram 14. Parker
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Rock Defender [54]
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OMG !!! We had Hatfield Two Times ! Ohhhhhh! *******
Dec 6, 2012, 1:47 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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That was sneaky.....
Dec 7, 2012, 3:36 PM
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should have at least pointed me for pointing it out to you.
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Re: my list
Dec 6, 2012, 2:27 PM
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My lifetime. 1. Ford 2. Howard 3. Pell 4. Swinney 5. Bowden 6. Parker 7. Hatfield 8. West 9. Ingram
From the top… If Ford wasn’t involved in probation, there would be more separation between him and Howard.
Howard took put us on the porch with the big dogs.
Pell would be higher, but he gets dinged for contributing to probation.
Swinney has us complaining about 10 win seasons. Maybe should be above Pell given Pell’s questionable ethics (yes, that is part of my criteria).
Bowden took a pitiful program and built it into a good team with some national significance. He set the stage for success.
Parker inherited a bad team and then Pell won with his players. He might should be higher.
Hatfield started the downward slide to ground zero and West dug a hole.
I was too young to remember, but Ingram’s record sucked.
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Pell after two only seasons and probation?
Dec 6, 2012, 2:32 PM
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You've got to be kidding.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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How is Neely so low?
Dec 6, 2012, 2:34 PM
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he had a mediocre record but his last 2 seasons were great (including Clemson's first bowl game), he coached Banks McFadden, and he helped Rupert Fike found IPTAY.
As far as his contributions to Clemson football, I'd put him top 5. I'd also put Hatfield right above Hootie Ingram and Red Parker as the 3 worst Clemson coaches.
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110%er [6894]
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Howard is severly overrated on your list.
Dec 6, 2012, 2:36 PM
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Just because you coach for 800 years doesnt mean you are great. Check his stats. 3-3 in bowls, averaged finishing 4th in conference play, 165-118 overall.
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Re: Howard is severly overrated on your list.
Dec 6, 2012, 2:38 PM
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But look beyond the wins and loses for Coach Howard!!!
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All-In [25230]
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like what***
Dec 7, 2012, 2:51 PM
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CU Medallion [54135]
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Heisman was the coach from 1900-1904
Dec 6, 2012, 3:32 PM
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Maybe you need to go back and include him.
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