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Orange Blooded [4423]
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question/concern about polls and ineligible teams...
Oct 17, 2012, 12:46 PM
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i was thinking the other day when looking at the rankings about the fact that Ohio State (and possibly Penn State) cant compete in a post season game of any kind, yet they are still allowed to be ranked. Most would think that this is fine BUT, in my opinion, since they are ineligible for postseason competition, i dont think they should be able factor into the polls.
Think about it, if they finish ahead of us in the polls, ultimately, a team that is being punished and is a non-factor for postseason play is being a factor in our ranking, and ultimately our BCS ranking.
Am I off base here? just thought i'd bring it up
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CU Guru [1363]
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Well, rankings only really matter for bowls
Oct 17, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Which means OSU being ranked above us doesn't affect us. Whether we're 14th or 15th, the bowl would be the same.
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Orange Blooded [4423]
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true, but...
Oct 17, 2012, 12:55 PM
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if we are an at-large candidate for a bcs bowl, it could affect our final bcs ranking if we are a spot lower in both polls (plus the computer polls) because of an ineligble team
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CU Guru [1110]
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OSU and PSU can't be, and aren't, ranked in the BCS.
Oct 17, 2012, 1:00 PM
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They are also not ranked in the USA Today or Harris polls, which are components of the BCS rankings.
The AP can rank them, but the AP's poll doesn't count.
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Orange Blooded [4423]
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got ya. makes more sense now***
Oct 17, 2012, 1:00 PM
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CU Medallion [68662]
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Re: I agree
Oct 17, 2012, 12:51 PM
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used to be probation meant no bowl, ranking, or tv. Now probation can mean anything or be nothing but words on a piece of paper with no impact. if you are on probation you've done enough wrong it should go back to the old definition. arent the coots still technically on probation for the whitney? so what exactly is their punishment. they oversign and cut or stiff kids scholarship wise so the make a mockery of even that punishment
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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polls don't matter
Oct 17, 2012, 12:52 PM
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it's the electoral college
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CU Medallion [68662]
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Re: this is true but their sports teams
Oct 17, 2012, 12:55 PM
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are something you never hear of. just like their academics actually. 
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CU Guru [1001]
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AP Poll still ranks teams whether or not they're on
Oct 17, 2012, 12:57 PM
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probation. Coaches poll does not rank if on probation.
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110%er [6781]
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the Coaches poll is not ranking ineligible teams
Oct 17, 2012, 12:58 PM
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with it being 1/3 of the BCS, even if other polls used in the formula rank them it will not affect us.
They have been ranked in AP but it doesn't count for anything.
ESPN has been reemphasizing the AP because when the BCS goes away the writers will again be in charge of molding public opinion when it comes to rankings
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