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All-TigerNet [12269]
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Obama and Biden on ISIS
Feb 4, 2015, 7:21 AM
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They are talking on this problem. If we cry wolf on this, it will further embolden this enemy and similar evil groups. Let's hope now that a serious mission is executed and that ISIS ceases to exist.
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Bummer ain't gonna do anything against
Feb 4, 2015, 8:42 AM
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His fellow mooslims...
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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we're still trying to figure out ISIS's ideology***
Feb 4, 2015, 8:49 AM
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110%er [7013]
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Czechen z Tmail***
Feb 4, 2015, 9:31 AM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Maybe Obama & Biden can talk ISIS to death.***
Feb 4, 2015, 9:49 AM
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All-In [34162]
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Let's hope we don't solve this problem for them.
Feb 4, 2015, 2:31 PM
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Let the Middle East handle the Middle East.
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Re: Let's hope we don't solve this problem for them.
Feb 5, 2015, 9:42 AM
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Kinda like letting Europe handle Hitler. I'm sure that would have turned out well for us. The problem with our getting involved in "wars" is that we no longer get involved to completely destroy the enemy, which we have the resources to accomplish, but the pussi libs. want to fight a PC war against an enemy that is anything but PC. Can't we all just get along?
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110%er [7082]
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If we could just sit down and reason with them
Feb 5, 2015, 9:47 AM
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Everything would be ok.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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More like the Nazis than different.***
Feb 5, 2015, 10:28 AM
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All-In [34162]
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I don't believe you.***
Feb 5, 2015, 11:22 AM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Well, I'm all tore up about that. But invading other
Feb 5, 2015, 11:27 AM
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countries and using terror to subjugate the people are common themes.
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All-In [34162]
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Should we be going after Boko Haram too?***
Feb 5, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Should we sit on our butts & hope for the best?***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:45 PM
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Answering a question with a question. Good strategy.***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:53 PM
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Re: Let's hope we don't solve this problem for them.
Feb 5, 2015, 11:56 AM
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If the CIC had sent troops in, these yahoos (= pseudo war hawks) would be on his case about that. I wonder how many would want sons, daughters or close relatives involved? In his defense, he does have Arab countries involved in the air war. Go Tigers and go USA.
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All-In [31988]
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i agree in principle. but let's HELP them solve...
Feb 5, 2015, 12:07 PM
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The answer to islamic terrorism is non-terrorist muslims standing up to. I'm all for helping them stand up.
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Agreed, depending on the help.***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:08 PM
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All-In [31988]
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arms, intel, air support, and limited ground forces***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:20 PM
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No ground forces, to say the least.
Feb 5, 2015, 12:31 PM
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And what about Boko Haram? What about every other conflict in the world right now?
How many more years of sacrificing American lives and tax dollars to join the fight against the latest gangs of a-holes in the Middle East?
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Re: No ground forces, to say the least.
Feb 5, 2015, 12:50 PM
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I hope to heil(sp) that one of our servicemen or women do not get captured. If they were burned to death, I would apply to go back into the service in some capacity and try to avenge whoever the victim was.
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All-In [31988]
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It's a reasonable point....
Feb 5, 2015, 6:42 PM
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at some point, we may need to step up assistance to those fighting Boko Haram too.
Some differences that make ISIS/ISIL more of an issue IMHO:
- BH is largely restricted to Nigeria (although I think they have branched out slightly in Cameroon?) / ISIS is across multiple countries and the terrorism has taken on a more international bent.
- ISIS is estimated to be 5-6 times larger in terms of # of fighters, is much more organized, is better funded, has actual military control over its "territory", and is taking on the form of a "state".
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All-In [34162]
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From what I've read, Boko Haram is worse.
Feb 5, 2015, 7:15 PM
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So yes, at some point I think we should get more involved there. The news is saying they control an area as large as Belgium. That seems at least as significant, if not moreso, than whether their reach spans an international border. The good news about an international gang like ISIS is that there are several nations already interested in deleting them.
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All-In [31988]
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I have a har. time defining "worse" in this case...
Feb 5, 2015, 8:56 PM
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When you get down to that level of evil....it's just "evil" or else you end up debating who has tortured the most children.
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Then how do you determine which evils require intervention?***
Feb 6, 2015, 10:37 AM
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All-In [31988]
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I meant the evil acts being carried out....
Feb 6, 2015, 11:06 AM
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as I stated before, I think ISIS is "worst" from an international perspective and with America's interests in mind...at the moment.
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All-In [34162]
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Re: I meant the evil acts being carried out....
Feb 6, 2015, 11:22 AM
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Boko Haram is also an international threat. In additional occupying a territory in Nigeria the size of a small country, Boko Harm is in Niger and Chad, and attacked a military base in Cameroon just last month. They have massacred thousands. They kidnapped and enslaved hundreds of schoolgirls. The very name "Boko Haram" means "Western education is forbidden." And they are linked to ISIS.
Dozens of nations are at war with ISIS, yet far less is being done about Boko Haram. Why?
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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This is a problem within the Muslim religion. I don't care
Feb 5, 2015, 10:33 AM
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what Obama and the libs say. It is just a fact. I am in agreement that it must be resolved among Muslims. Because of ISIS's tactics and strategy to change the Muslim religion, the resolution will be violent and bloody.
To say we must stand aside would be folly. If we refuse to influence the outcome of this, to lend support to the sane Muslims, to help in whatever capacity we can, we deserve what we get.
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Re: This is a problem within the Muslim religion. I don't care
Feb 5, 2015, 11:58 AM
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Point CDef. That was well stated. Go Tigers
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Thank you. In 2016 we should be able to make a run at the NC***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:47 PM
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Re: Thank you. In 2016 we should be able to make a run at the NC***
Feb 5, 2015, 12:56 PM
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I would like to see a NC and a solution to the ISIS threat during 2015. Cheers for both of these to
happen.
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