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All-TigerNet [12763]
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What's a good starter whiskey?
Nov 25, 2015, 1:40 PM
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I don't mean fire starter, I mean whiskey for someone (me) that is just starting to drink whiskey. Never had a taste for it, but thinking about it.
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good question...it's one of those things I've never really
Jan 25, 2015, 2:06 PM
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been into, but kinda wanted to.
I just don't think i like it enough tho
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For me, it was Maker's Mark. I mean, Beam and Ginger was
Jan 28, 2014, 3:13 PM
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a staple in college, but Maker's was the first I really really liked to drink with a cube of ice. Then I found Woodford's Reserve...mmmmmmm.
Also, I am not as much of a Bourbon man as many on here are.
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Makers/Ginger is my favorite drink...two talls and I'm good
Jan 28, 2014, 3:14 PM
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to go!
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yeah, i can pound some makers/ginger...but can't seem
Jan 28, 2014, 3:15 PM
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to ditch the ginger (Red)
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Don't pound it, be a little more gentle. THEN, when you
Jan 28, 2014, 3:18 PM
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start feeling good, POUND IT!
-SheGUAR
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^^^this is my Saturday night.***
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we know.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:16 PM
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some different shoes can probably help mask it tho
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hey wait I fixed it for greenr not for me
Jan 28, 2014, 3:18 PM
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you sumbeach
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That went over your head.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:18 PM
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You're short.
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by default.***
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Thanks,
Jan 28, 2014, 3:21 PM
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friend.
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Do you want straight up whiskey or flavored whiskey?***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:11 PM
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Hell if I know?***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:13 PM
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^^^gets the kwashon***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:16 PM
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ok then...straight up
Jan 28, 2014, 3:19 PM
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with an umbrella
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You serious Clark?
Jan 28, 2014, 3:22 PM
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Peach, Blueberry, etc.
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Its the gateway alcohol...
Jan 28, 2014, 3:14 PM
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to AA.
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Most straight up alchy's drink vodka
Jan 28, 2014, 3:15 PM
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Fun fact, I've done a poll of the local homeless.
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^^^Has polled the local homeless.***
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#baller***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:25 PM
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#sdeep***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:56 PM
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y or ey?***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:14 PM
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Bourbon, Irish, Canadian, Scotch???
Jan 28, 2014, 3:15 PM
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Gotta pick there first.
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over my head
Jan 28, 2014, 3:26 PM
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and I ain't short.
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Maker's Mark***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:15 PM
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Woodford Reserve***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:19 PM
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#baller***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:19 PM
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Old Crow?***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:19 PM
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If you're mixing it with anything sweet, it doesn't really
Jan 28, 2014, 3:21 PM
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matter. Go as cheap as you can find. If you're going to actually drink to savor the whiskey itself, I'd suggest starting with a bourbon as opposed to a rye, Irish Whiskey or Scotch. Maker's Mark is a decent entry level bottle that you can actually drink over a couple of cubes of ice and a twist of lemon. There are much better, of course, but if you're testing the waters it doesn't make a lot of sense to drop $90+ on a really good bottle until you've earned enough of a palate to appreciate the different subtleties of fine whiskeys. If you want to go cheaper than Maker's, Rebel Yell is one of the most underrated wheated bourbons around, and drinks just fine using the same prep.
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Finally you and E_R with sirrius answers
Jan 28, 2014, 3:24 PM
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I want to savor that #####!
Thanks.
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If my answers frighten you CUFOR98, you should cease asking
Jan 28, 2014, 3:39 PM
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scary questions.
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Re: If my answers frighten you CUFOR98, you should cease asking
Jan 28, 2014, 3:47 PM
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No.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:33 PM
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The mash bill has to contain 51 percent corn for it to legally be sold as bourbon, and then the remaining grains would be wheat, rye, barley, or a combination thereof. Good wheated bourbons are typically 70/30 corn to wheat.
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Had no idea wheated bourbon was a thing***
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For starters, Beam and Ginger is the way to go
Jan 28, 2014, 3:22 PM
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If you aquire a taste for it, then Woodford Reserve is good bourbon with a cube or 2 of ice. Knob Creek is pretty good too. But you definitely don't want to spend that kind of money if you're mixing it. Honestly, if you're mixing, any of the bottom shelf bourbons will get you through: Jim Beam, Ancient Age, Rebel Yell, Evan Williams, Early Times, etc
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I can't say exactly why
Jan 28, 2014, 3:27 PM
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but I'm not a fan of Knob Creek
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ever tried Clyde Mays: Conecuh Ridge?
Jan 28, 2014, 3:35 PM
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it's purdy good. I tried it for the first time at the Maryland game this year. I don't prefer it over Woodford, but for something different, it does the trick.
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Re: ever tried Clyde Mays: Conecuh Ridge?
Jan 28, 2014, 8:40 PM
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I saw that in the store and wanted to give it a try. So it's worth a shot?
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Not a lot of folks have Vermouth or bitters around
Jan 28, 2014, 4:03 PM
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but that's not a bad thing to order out. If you do, order it 'perfect'.
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Never understood why people use Canadian Whiskey
Jan 28, 2014, 4:05 PM
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its called a Manhattan, not a Toronto
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It's probably hard to find a Southerner behind the rail that
Jan 28, 2014, 4:16 PM
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doesn't use bourbon, but the classic Manhattan calls for rye whiskey. That said, I might just have to try that when I pick up a bottle of the Jefferson's Rye.
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here's why:
Jan 28, 2014, 4:38 PM
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the drink became popular during prohibition when Canadian Rye was more frequently available.
Also, it was a drink created for W. Churchill's Mother!
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Re: here's why:
Jan 28, 2014, 4:42 PM
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Jenny Jerome
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go to a bar that will serve a whiskey flight
Jan 28, 2014, 3:23 PM
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and sample them. I know Ri Ra Irish Pub has such a flight if there's one near you.
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Ri Ra carries a pretty good representation of the Bushmill's
Jan 28, 2014, 3:28 PM
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family. Too bad they have to keep that rotgut sewer water Jameson's on the shelf for the uneducated and undiscriminating drinker as well.
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Red Stag
Jan 28, 2014, 3:25 PM
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I don't care what you say, i like it.
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The best whiskey I ever drank was
Jan 28, 2014, 3:27 PM
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beer.
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this is pretty much my opinion to date***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:28 PM
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yeah, mine too.***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:30 PM
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Whatever you do, don't mix with coke or ginger or any sody
Jan 28, 2014, 3:28 PM
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pop.
Scotch by far the best (least sweet), then Irish Whiskey, then bourbon and Canadian (the most sweet).
Pour you one with ice only, sip it down, and by the time you've finished your third one, you're hooked for life.
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The ice (more specifically the water)
Jan 28, 2014, 3:29 PM
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can completely change a scotch and to extent any whiskey.
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i got my dad some whiskey rocks for some recent life event
Jan 28, 2014, 3:30 PM
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do those perform as advertised, or are they more of a novelty?
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I've heard reviews on both ends of the spectrum.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:35 PM
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I like using ice, because the flavor can actually change during the course of the drink and bring out different notes as the ice melts. I don't think there's a wrong answer to this, it's pure personal preference.
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^this***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:38 PM
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THAT might just be the scary thing.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:49 PM
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When you stop to think about it.
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I'VE already got the poor man's versions
Jan 28, 2014, 3:54 PM
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I've tried scotch several times
Jan 28, 2014, 3:42 PM
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and just can't seem to find a taste for it. It's probably time to give it another try.
I mean, I didn't like a tomato until I was 35 years old, but I kept trying them every once in a while until I finally found a tomato I could eat. As it turns out, a homegrown tomato taste nothing like a store bought mater. I grew my own to make some chow chow and ate one for grins and giggles. Boy howdy!! I didn't know maters were sweet, but I digress.
Give me a good scotch recommendation. Please.
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I chugged a glass of scotch when I was 15
Jan 28, 2014, 3:45 PM
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havent come close to taking a sip since.
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The only scotch I have had is J&B and other cheap blends.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:49 PM
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I liked it and drank it like a champ.
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are you my mother in law?
Jan 28, 2014, 3:55 PM
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no...can't be. I can understand what you're saying.
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Dewar's best for the money. Johnny Walker Black is my
Jan 28, 2014, 3:51 PM
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favorite 12 year old blend. I've never had a bad single malt.
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I can agree with that.
Jan 28, 2014, 4:27 PM
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And for some reason, a good Scotch demands a good cigar.
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they go together like Zima's and UVA fans***
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Great Starter Whiskey: Pappy Van Winkle 20 Year***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:40 PM
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Pappy is not whiskey.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:44 PM
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It is Jesus' tears in a bottle.
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FIREBALL!!
Jan 28, 2014, 3:43 PM
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Heh.
The only thing I like from Canada...Crown.
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Fireball does make a decent cough syrup.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:51 PM
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I'll allow for that much.
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On a cold day of golf, it is Fireball I am drinking.***
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I like crown too, but have only had it mixed.
Jan 28, 2014, 3:52 PM
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I want to start sippin' straight.
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Start with some ice, and even a lemon twist and work back.
Jan 28, 2014, 4:10 PM
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I think you'll find that a much better transition and you'll be able to pick out flavor notes of different mashes as opposed to shocking your taste buds and then everything tasting the same. That's why you find folks showing off a high dollar bottle but mixing it with cola. They never built a palate and cheap tastes as good (or bad) as high quality to them.
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10-4... appreciate it. I might go get me a bottle
Jan 28, 2014, 4:12 PM
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of something.
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Agree with RH, I sip bourbon on the rocks in a small glass.
Jan 28, 2014, 5:57 PM
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Think the small glasses at nice hotels. That's where I get them. Cover 3 or 4 cubes with bourbon, sip, repeat as required. A Jim Beam rep at a tasting festival gave me the schpeel RH mentioned, that a lil water releases flavors from the bourbon. Maker's Mark is a good choice. My everyday bourbon is Elijah Craig, because it's 12 yrs old, 94 proof, and cheaper than similar bourbons here in Va.
Speaking of tasting festivals, keep your eye out for one this spring/summer and go. Went to one in Raleigh a couple years ago and it was awesome.
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Willet Pure Kentucky
Jan 28, 2014, 3:52 PM
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That was my favorite when I went on the Kentucky Bourbon Trail.
Surprised nobody's recommending any Tennessee or Irish whiskies.
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because they are inferior whiskeys***
Jan 28, 2014, 3:55 PM
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Can't agree.
Jan 28, 2014, 4:14 PM
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Tennessee, maybe so, but there are some FINE Irish whiskeys. The issue here is that CUFOR98 is getting started, and bourbon is definitely a smoother entry into the whiskey than anything else, hence the plethora of bourbon recommendations.
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I sholdn't have lumped Irish Whiskeys in
Jan 28, 2014, 4:17 PM
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but I really have no desire to drink Tennessee Whiskeys
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The reason that Jack & Coke is a 'thing' is because it's not
Jan 28, 2014, 4:21 PM
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a truly high quality sipping whiskey, as much as the marketing department in Lynchburg would have you believe. That said, it does make a decent sweet drink. But so does Evan Williams.
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Actually there is some Jack I will drink
Jan 28, 2014, 4:24 PM
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and only because its what is in my dad's flask. One night I'll drink it in memory of him.
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And, as Tennessee Whiskey goes, George Dickel is sippable.
Jan 28, 2014, 4:25 PM
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I actually prefer it with a splash of water and a twist when I drink it. I have several buddies around town that are Dickel loyalists, so I end up drinking it once in a while.
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I have never cared for Dickel. Drank Jack Black for many
Jan 28, 2014, 6:07 PM
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years until they cheapened it up years ago.
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Some ppl prefer TN whiskies bc they find bourbons too sweet
Jan 28, 2014, 4:41 PM
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On the one hand, this means TN whisky is better for mixing with sweet stuff, but on the other hand, you might rather not have the sugary taste when you drink your whisky neat.
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^^I agree with that***
Jan 28, 2014, 9:17 PM
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7 and 7
Jan 28, 2014, 4:35 PM
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Then by age 17-18 you can work your way to the bourbons and
after college go Jack or some Irish
Worked for me
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Ever tried the Sin City Whiskey?
Jan 28, 2014, 4:54 PM
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Never got around to it when when I was there, but I intended to.
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Not yet, I think there may be some local vodka too
Jan 28, 2014, 5:56 PM
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I'll check it out and report
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Wild Turkey 101***
Jan 28, 2014, 5:42 PM
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Re: Wild Turkey 101***
Jan 28, 2014, 5:44 PM
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I know so little about whiskey, that I can't even tell if that's a joke.
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it is a good starter imo
Jan 28, 2014, 5:50 PM
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of course it is pretty much the only whiskey i drink.
lol.
you might try Crown but it is a blend.
i dont have the palate for Scotch. whew.
or Irish
those must be more expensive than i am willing to pay to hate drinking.
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Thanks***
Jan 28, 2014, 5:53 PM
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Re: Thanks***
Jan 28, 2014, 6:08 PM
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Well I am 55 Irish and from Kentucky
And what I can testify to from experience with my family and friends is the following:
Irish Whiskey is great- it will send you to hell quicker and haul your family to a place that they will curse your name at your funeral louder than just about any.
Kentucky Bourbon is smooth going down, maybe the smoothest and hopefully you like rock and roll because it will rock your life, business and brain to such an extent that you be a blubbering fool by the time your are 40. So get that education quick because you won't have enough brain cells to pass a Clemson into Sociology course.
But if you want to get there quickest and cheapest I find most lives are ruined most efficiently by straight Vodka.
But that's just my opinion from my short half century of experience.
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so
Jan 28, 2014, 6:16 PM
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you do or do not like Wild Turkey 101?
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Re: so
Jan 28, 2014, 6:54 PM
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I believe my brother was on that when he went through his bankruptcy and fourth wife so I would say it is is a formidable competitor to the others.
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you say potatoes.
Jan 29, 2014, 9:20 AM
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I say puhtahtoes.
if he had 4 wives, he NEEDED to drink my friend.
it seems he had more problems than you can attribute to just drinking. he didn't know when to quit getting married.
lastly, i'd say mental health problems run in your brother's family.
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Re: you say potatoes.
Jan 29, 2014, 11:33 AM
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Maybe........ but the drinking started in college before the first wife.
You don't understand basic cause and effect, which is in all of your science books, used to be in psychology books before they took out the word "responsibility"
Also, a basic understanding on your part of entropy from a scientific, historic and socio-psychological perspective would help you to understand the draw of alcohol to the downward spiral of man and his rebellion with God.
Ah yes and you do well with personal insults, sorry to hit a nerve.
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Re:llee - thanks for the lulz***
Jan 28, 2014, 9:22 PM
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Re:llee - thanks for the lulz***
Jan 29, 2014, 6:47 AM
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“Ignorance is a lot like alcohol: the more you have of it, the less you are able to see its effect on you.”
? Jay M. Bylsma
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Re: Thanks***
Jan 28, 2014, 10:13 PM
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Shoot I'm almost 40 now and already a blubbering fool, but my kids are doing that to me. Lol
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Re: Thanks***
Jan 29, 2014, 6:08 AM
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for you a poem from a teen of a drinker
© Cody
Another day of life by the drop.
I pray to lord, help me stop.
I awake in pain, feeling shame.
Knowing soon again I'll play the game.
For the brief second with my self.
Before I walk over to that shelf.
I stop and think of all the things I do.
And the people I hurt while drinking booze.
I grip the bottle o' so tight.
I won't let go until the night.
All these thoughts rush through my head.
Loves and pride and things I once said.
I know it's from the former me.
The one that can no longer be.
It hits me hard, I cannot cope.
So drink until I start to choke..
Day to day, I live like this.
High to high and kiss to kiss.
I hope one day, the drunk will let me out.
And never again will I drink and shout.
Until that time I'll drown and hate.
I just hope that's not my final fate.
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Second.
Jan 28, 2014, 9:03 PM
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I'd start lower-middle or middle-class and work your way up. If you start on something like Maker's, you'll get spoiled to it and everything above it.
Honestly, the basics are a great place to start. Jim Beam. Wild Turkey. Evan Williams. I'm not saying they're the best - but you'll learn to appreciate Maker's and Woodford Reserve and Jefferson's better if you start with some training wheels.
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Sazerac
Jan 28, 2014, 6:12 PM
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• • • •
INGREDIENTS
1.3 oz. Bulleit® Rye
0.25 oz. absinthe
1 cube sugar
3 dash Peychaud's bitters
GLASS
Old Fashioned Glass
PREPARATION
1. Muddle sugar and bitters, add the rye and stir with ice.
2. Strain into an old fashioned glass that's been chilled and rinsed with absinthe.
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Irish. It's about as smooth as it gets. Bushmills or
Jan 28, 2014, 6:22 PM
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Jameson - you won't likely tell the difference (but true Irish drinkers will take those as fighting words).
Of course, I really love bourbon, and there are so many. Don't feel like you need to buy the really expensive stuff.
Just take it neat, on the rocks, or maybe with a bit of water. Stay away from the cola, 7up, sprite, etc.
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There is a difference.
Jan 28, 2014, 7:44 PM
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Bushmill's is right, Jameson's is wrong. You need not know more than that.
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I like Irish also and have had several brands. Gotta agree
Jan 28, 2014, 8:37 PM
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with RH Tig, Bushmill's is smoother. If you ever come across one called
Merry, it perhaps is even smoother, but harder to find.
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Re: What's a good starter whiskey?
Jan 28, 2014, 8:40 PM
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For starting out you can't go wrong with Maker's Mark. Buffalo Trace is also a lower priced bourbon that you can enjoy without mixers. Stetson's isn't bad.
I don't know where it falls on the price range but I got a bottle of Four Roses as a gift. I have heard people bash it but I thought it was pretty good.
For the next step up I second the Knob Creek recommendation. Heard good things about Woodford Reserve as well.
This weekend a friend and I are going to get Pappy Van Winkle for the first time. I'm excited to try it.
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Interesting. I will check that out.***
Jan 28, 2014, 8:49 PM
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one of life's lil disappoints. Missed their booth at
Jan 28, 2014, 11:42 PM
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the Eagles show in Greensboro. Missing free bourbon leaves a mark.
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Re: one of life's lil disappoints. Missed their booth at
Jan 29, 2014, 6:08 PM
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That was a pleasant surprise.
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I'd start with Jim Beam White with ginger and lime wedge
Jan 28, 2014, 9:08 PM
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or do it with a splash of water and ginger and lime.
Beam Black is what I used to splurge on in college and still do sometimes. I still think it's very good. Bullet is another good choice.
Now, I keep a mid-shelf bourbon for normal drinking/tailgaiting and a top shelf like Bookers or Blanton's for more special drunken occasions with the old college roommates. FYI boubon enthusiasts Booker's is a BA uncut cask strength bourbon you have to check out. But in general, I am always getting new brands.
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Also, does anybody else think Crown sucks?
Jan 28, 2014, 9:29 PM
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overpriced garbage IMO, but then again, I haven't tried any canadian whiskey that ive liked.
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i have dranked a lot of crown with ginger for eons
Jan 28, 2014, 9:37 PM
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one time i was bought a shot of crown and thought it was awful and that's being nice
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Mrs No likes crown w/ ginger ale, and I think that mix is OK
Jan 28, 2014, 11:44 PM
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but as you said, without mixer it's a disappoint.
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For Scotch...
Jan 29, 2014, 10:35 AM
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a reasonably priced blend with a smooth taste that I like is The Famous Grouse. Other, cheaper blends, to me are not even worth what you pay unless you just want to get drunk and remove the mucous layer from the back of your throat. You may find you want to try the expensive single malts later, but I think The Famous Grouse is a good belly warmer to always have on hand.
Oh and Rebel Yell.
Rebel Yell is not something most people buy for the taste, but I like it.
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Probably the most underrated wheated bourbon out there for
Jan 29, 2014, 11:24 AM
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the money. Another fun fact...Rebel Yell was originally a Stitzel-Weller brand, in other words, it's right out of the Pappy Van Winkle family tree.
Also doesn't hurt that I've built years of loyalty as the preferred brand of bourbon starting with those first week of summer beach trips throughout high school and college. Schlitz on the beach all day, Rebel Yell when the sun went down.
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