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Whered the new influx of casuals come from?
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Apr 6, 2024, 9:17 PM
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I haven’t been here long. Is it like this every year? Never met any fan in person who hits the panic button from a glorified scrimmage, but this page seems to be full of them
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Re: Whered the new influx of casuals come from?
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Apr 6, 2024, 9:41 PM
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Good gracious I’ve never seen more people suggest that the 3rd string qb should be the starter because he had one better practice game.
I hope Graham Neff is reading this board. Might have the next Dabo typing away here.
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It's funny
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Apr 6, 2024, 10:08 PM
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I started keeping up with Clemson football as a teen. Anytime I watch the spring game and see a backup guy show out I'm immediately reminded of Cullen Harper and Tribble Reese (who??!?).
It was the first spring game I got to attend and thought WOW this Tribble Reese guy killed it. No way he's not the starter...then Cullen Harper took the gig and never looked back.
Sure, Cullen Harper isn't a Clemson legend by any means and this was the Tommy Bowden days but it stuck with me that one game/scrimmage doesn't necessarily represent an entire sample size of practice and camp.
Loved what Pearman did today and honestly he gave me the impression he should be #2 on the depth but folks are wildin' out with some of these takes on here.
Edit: Looks like the game I remember was the year before that starting QB battle took place. Tribble Reese balled out but that year it was Harper and him battling for the #2 spot.
https://clemsontigers.com/quarterbacks-highlight-clemson-scrimmage/
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Re: This guy?
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Good Googly Moogly! Who is looking at Tribble?
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Little known fact about Tribble...
Apr 7, 2024, 1:33 AM
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He's the illegitimate son of William Shatner—
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Name that I haven't seen in a long time....
Apr 7, 2024, 1:11 AM
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I recall someone from Ard's early Rivals site [message board] (maybe Ard) hyping Reese as a superior athlete following his performance in the scrimmage—
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Re: Whered the new influx of casuals come from?
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Apr 6, 2024, 11:49 PM
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What's wrong with people supporting a backup? People are just tired of Cade right now because he looks the exact same as last year.
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Myopic/short sighted and definitely a take representative...
Apr 7, 2024, 1:25 AM
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of the typical casual mindset but to your question: "What's wrong with.....?". Are you familiar with the expression, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree", as well as the negative connotation associated with the phrase?
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Apr 7, 2024, 12:42 AM
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Who dis is?
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I can't speak for everyone, but
Apr 7, 2024, 2:27 AM
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We're not basing this off of one spring game. We're basing this off of the continuously poor performance of Clemson's offense for the past 3 seasons. To give you some idea, here's Clemson's offensive beta rank from last year. This is a ranking system that looks at drive efficiency, explosiveness, play efficiency, and negative drives to produce an overall ranking of college football offenses. Last season, Clemson's offense ranked 76th out of the 133 college football teams in the FBS. In 2022, they were 35th. In 2021, they were 69th. To put things into perspective, here is that same ranking over previous years going all the way back to 2012 when they first created the statistic:
2023: 76th 2022: 35th 2021: 69th 2020: 9th 2019: 5th 2018: 4th 2017: 19th 2016: 2nd 2015: 7th 2014: 72nd 2013: 14th 2012: 6th
By this same statistic last year, Clemson would've ranked 11th out of 14 in the ACC. For some added comparison, they would've been 12th in the SEC. I'm not sure people realize just how bad this offense has been. The 2023 Clemson offense was actually in the bottom half of the entire FBS. As you can see in the rankings, there was some improvement from 2021 to 2022, but 2023 was a massive regression, the worst ranking out of all 12 years listed for Clemson, even worse than the Cole Stoudt year. Now granted, beta rankings aren't perfect, and everyone has their own opinion on how to judge offenses, but they're the best system I've found, and I think if you look at them year-by-year you'll have to admit they're pretty fair if you think back on what some of those teams looked like. (I'll link it here: https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/offensive-beta-rank )
The reality is, Clemson will never be able to be a great football team with an offense this bad. The great defense helps a lot, but you can't make up for that poor of an offense no matter how good the defense is. We were hoping to see signs of hope during the spring game, but what we got was yet another disappointing offensive performance from Klubnik and Vizzina. What upsets people is that they're realizing that unless the offense can improve, the level of play (and results) from 2021-2023 will be the new normal for Clemson in 2024 and beyond. Optimists have dismissed the spring game as nothing to worry about each of the past 2 years, yet look what happened. Now I'm not saying that the spring game should be looked at as the end-all-be-all of what will happen later, but it can at least offer some clues. And based on what we saw yesterday, the offense looks just as uninspiring as it did last year, save for some good performances by Pearman and a handful of other skill players. But the point is that if Cade doesn't play better, it's not going to matter much how well the receivers play. We were hoping to see some signs of progress for CK2 during the spring game, but he looked pretty much the same as before.
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