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It's about respect...
Dec 28, 2012, 2:56 PM
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The reason that so many people love Danny is because he brought respect to Clemson. We didn't go 12-0 every year, but you better believe everyone respected Clemson. If you didn't live during the eighties you don't know how respected we were. That is why it drives me crazy to see these young kids disrespecting Danny. Now ESPN makes fun of us for being soft along with the ACC. That is why some of us want to go to the SEC so badly. It is instant respect. I would rather go 8-4 every year and get respect than I would 10-2 and my toughness questioned. I like Dabo, he is a good man and he is loyal to Clemson, but it's time to start getting the respect we deserve.
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Re: It's about respect...
Dec 28, 2012, 2:58 PM
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This is the best post you ever posted. Its very true.
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I was at most of the games during Danny's years.....love the
Dec 28, 2012, 3:02 PM
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man. My 1981 Sports Illustrated is autographed by him and it's my most cherished Clemson possession. I treasure those years, but hate seeing Dabo drug through the mud when I can see good years ahead. Many of the people on this board are ready to run him off after a 10 win season because USuCk has our number the past 4 years. Danny would not have survived 84-86 in his day and age and we would have never seen 87-89.
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Danny was also 1-2-1 during 1984-1987 against USuCk.***
Dec 28, 2012, 3:07 PM
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His whole body of work is impressive.***
Dec 28, 2012, 3:09 PM
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I agree 100%, best ever in my mind also. I only argue that
Dec 28, 2012, 3:13 PM
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Dabo is just as capable, if given time. You haven't answered my question......would Danny have survived 84 - 86 today?
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After winning a NC he deserved a little breathing room.***
Dec 28, 2012, 3:19 PM
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Dabo didn't just get off of NCAA probation and the sanctions
Dec 28, 2012, 3:37 PM
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which hammered us during that period.
Dabo is a good man, I like him. And I think he is truly loyal to Clemson. But if we don't have a defense AND and offense by the end of the 2014 season that can compete with anyone in the nation, Dabo needs to go. You can't beat quality teams without a defense.
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Of course he would survive. Look Danny was the best & Dabo
Dec 28, 2012, 4:08 PM
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has the opportunity to get that level. Ol needs to get better, defense needs to get better at every position, and special teams need to be special. Saw most of Danny's ganes home and away played in the USA.....best of times; however, Dabo has the opportunity to get there as well.
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Good years ahead...
Dec 28, 2012, 3:11 PM
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It amazes me how confident so many people are about this.
I hope you are correct, but you don't know this.
We thought we had good years ahead after Hatfield's first two...
We thought we had good years ahead after OP's first two, but..
Yes, I like a positive attitude, but's let put first things first. Beat LSU, and then start beating the Coots.
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I never said Danny cheated.....I agree with you, however.
Dec 28, 2012, 3:17 PM
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The only point I am trying to make is that Dabo's career is too early to throw in the towel. If not Dabo, then who? If we run off successful coaches after 4 years, especially after 2 ten win seasons, who in their right mind would come here?
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I didnt mean to run Dabo off. Just meant it's time to get
Dec 28, 2012, 3:21 PM
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physical.
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Hey......1000% agree. I want teams to dread seeing Orange
Dec 28, 2012, 3:27 PM
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again. The '80's were awesome. I want that bad-a$$ defense also.
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Back then "we would, we would Rock You"!***
Dec 28, 2012, 4:12 PM
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Unlike love......
Dec 28, 2012, 3:13 PM
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respect cannot be bought.
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give her an xtree jackson, she'll call it anything you want.***
Dec 28, 2012, 3:18 PM
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Re: It's about respect...
Dec 28, 2012, 3:30 PM
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Our respect issue isn't necessarily a byproduct of having Dabo Swinney for our HC. He is a very respectable man. He has taken heat for defending our university, speaking honestly, and talking about his beliefs, and yet he still remains a class act through and through.
Our respect issue is due mostly in part to the physicality, or lack thereof, of our team, namely our defense. The thing is, Dabo recognized and addressed our defensive issues as much as humanly possible in the offseason, and now we are seeing the birth of an entirely new defensive unit. We are young and talented, and we are still in the first year of implementing a new defense.
I believe our defense will show up, play well, and be physical against LSU, especially now that they have had an entire season, and now the entire bowl season, to improve.
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Amen, brother.....***
Dec 28, 2012, 3:45 PM
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I Get an "Amen Brother", 1 thumbs up, and 1 thumbs down SMH***
Dec 28, 2012, 4:27 PM
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And over 90% of the teams that beat us back then...
Dec 28, 2012, 4:00 PM
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would not win the following week because they were so physically beaten up after our game.
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This is a new Generation of Kids. Practice them too rough
Dec 28, 2012, 4:25 PM
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and some of them will call their Lawyer and fax you a cease and desist order haha
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Re: It's about respect...I loved those teams
Dec 28, 2012, 4:18 PM
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you knew what was coming and they dared you to stop it. Can you picture them looking to the sideline after lining up waiting to be told what to run. we ran what we wanted to and dared you to be man enough to stop us
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this***
Dec 28, 2012, 4:36 PM
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Re: It's about respect...
Dec 28, 2012, 4:45 PM
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Sorry,but imo,there is nothing called instant respect.You have to earn it,and the way you earn it in football is to play hard nosed smash mouth football,something that has been missing since Danny.
I will give you that about Danny Ford.His teams played defense.
Dabo is in his fourth season and has gone thru 2 defensive coordinators in Koening and Steele.
IMO,neither has what I think Brent Venables will bring to the table if people will give him a chance.
Name me one defensive player he has recruited on this years defense.That would be none because this was his first full season.He was playing with Steele's players,for what that was worth.
Lets see what he does defensively,starting with the 2013 class before you ,or anybody talks about the respect we deserve.
That's because we have not earned that respect.
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I agree!***
Dec 28, 2012, 5:32 PM
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