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FSU should fire Fisher for meddling in conference realignmen
Jun 25, 2012, 11:24 AM
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June 25, 2012 | 6:23 AM By Chadd Scott
In a podcast recorded 6/20/2012 Chuckoliver.net Senior Writer Ingram Smith (@ingramsmith on Twitter) and I discussed Florida State University’s conference affiliation. I believe FSU should and will remain as a member of the ACC, Smith has sources inside FSU who continue to believe the school has already decided to leave for the Big 12. I asked Smith (at the 8:30 mark) who inside the FSU community was pushing the agenda for the Seminoles to leave the ACC? Not surprisingly, former FSU Board of Trustees chair Andy Haggard was listed first as a key conspirator. Shockingly, Smith also identified head football coach Jimbo Fisher as a driving force behind the scenes pushing a pro-Big 12 agenda. “Horrifying” was the word I used to describe this situation: a football coach attempting to steer the eternal course of a major public university. I personally believe Smith’s sources who contend that Fisher is helping instigate this movement. That makes sense to me. Jimbo essentially tipped his hand to this fact with these comments. And, if you know anything about Jimbo Fisher, you know he is a Type-A micromanager. From what soda is being sold at concession stands inside Doak Campbell Stadium to the university’s conference affiliation, it doesn’t surprise me to hear Fisher believes he should have sweeping powers to make decisions. I get the feeling Fisher wishes he could be head football coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, quarterbacks coach, wide receivers coach, offensive line coach, marketing director, athletic director, sports information director and school president at the same time. It also makes sense to me that only someone who views the world primarily through the prism of football could be driving FSU off this cliff from the ACC to the Big 12. IF Jimbo Fisher is in fact working back channels to stir up sentiment among the FSU community regarding a change of conference affiliation he should be fired by University president Eric Barron effective immediately. I am struggling to even put into words what a stunning usurpation of power this would be from Fisher. Fisher, as football coach, makes a mockery of the chain of command going over the head of his direct supervisor, the athletic director, his ultimate boss, the university president, and board of trustees. He’s attempting to be a secret dictator. He’s attempting to hijack the future of Florida State UNIVERSITY and steer it toward a course which could ONLY benefit the football program. If Fisher were a member of the government or military acting in a similar fashion he would be guilty of treason. If this accusation is true. Again, that’s a huge IF, but it passes my smell test which most college football conference expansion rumors don’t. This is the place within my columns where I typical provide a clever analogy to present greater clarity to the issue I’m discussing. I can’t find one for this situation. A football coach obviously has no official authority or decision making responsibility when it comes to a school’s conference affiliation. At the same time, coaches should be consulted and allowed to voice their opinions. What Fisher understands is that while he doesn’t have an official voice in this process, the power of his position and his bully pulpit as popular, successful, highly-paid football coach gives him tremendous influence regarding this decision. When Jimbo Fisher picks up the phone, calls a board of trustee member or big-money booster and “pisses in his ears” (to use a "Sopranos" phrase) degrading the ACC while lauding the Big 12 (if that happened), that has influence. Great influence. Fisher’s opinions change minds. Florida State University has over 40,000 students. It has over 100,000 living alumni, thousands of faculty and administrative staffers, thousands of boosters and millions of fans. It also has an athletic director, a president and a board of trustees. A Napoleonic football coach can not be allowed to disregard the school’s chain of command and secretly attempt to exert influence on wide-ranging policy decisions which will dramatically affect the University at large for decades to come.
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Re: FSU should fire Fisher for meddling in conference realignmen
Jun 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
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You ever watched Jimbo talking to his players at practice? I would never play for this idiot. Every word out of his mouth is demeaning. Why recruits want to play for him is beyond me. I know you have to do that sometimes - maybe even a lot of times - but not all the time. He seems to have the 'Napolean (little man) complex'.
I can't wait to see us hammer the Noles at Doak. It'll be funny to watch ESPN do their annual backstroke on how FSU should be NC/ACC Champ/Master of the Universe.
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I love Dabo, but didn't he do the same thing, except in
Jun 25, 2012, 11:37 AM
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support of staying in the ACC?
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agreed....so the employees and coaches can't
Jun 25, 2012, 11:39 AM
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have and express opinions when asked..that's all Jimbo did here.
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Re: I love Dabo, but didn't he do the same thing, except in
Jun 25, 2012, 11:48 AM
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Nope not even close! Dabo stating he thinks we should stay is alot different than being the driving force and going over everybody's head!
Jimbo has over stepped in a big way
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then FSU can deal with him if that's the case
Jun 25, 2012, 11:51 AM
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but if everyone from FSU has decided to move on and he's simply following the company line then that's a different story. I can't imagine he was a rogue in this case given that his bosses were stating it as well.
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Re: then FSU can deal with him if that's the case
Jun 25, 2012, 11:55 AM
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It said he was one of the main driving force's that's not the coaches job. Sounds like some from the board may be ticked off at him.
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probably ticked off at him because they are hearing from
Jun 25, 2012, 11:58 AM
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attorney's who are advising them regarding moving that he needs to shut up publicly.
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I think it was much more likely that FSU from the top down
Jun 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
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had decided to move on and had instructed Jimbo to simply evangelize his followers on why it would be good. Making a move like this is much smoother with everyone on board.
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Towing the company line and avoiding a lawsuit
Jun 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
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is all Dabo did.
Maybe Jimbo is privately doing the same.
If not and he's lobbying behind those that control his paycheck's back ? That could be a problem, but it'd only be a problem if the higher ups at FSU thought it was.
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agreed...this is an FSU problem only...the only reason
Jun 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
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it's an enormous ACC problem is them leaving creates a huge sucking noise of $'s out the back door.
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What about the large sucking sound of $$$'s coming out of
Jun 25, 2012, 1:46 PM
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our back door? Sacrificing $8 Million in revenue every two years with the forced loss of a home game to accommodate a 9-game schedule in order to subsidize league programs that not only don't contribute anything in football but actually bring the league down? Contributing a significant share of media value to the league through the higher popularity of our football telecasts yet watching that money disperse away? Having our fans trek 1000 miles away now once annually in order to sell 40,000 seats for Syracuse and BC? Having our better bowl invites because we travel well cost us money in the long run in order to make the gig while half the league schools line their pockets from it? Having our SOS ebb away or sacrifice yet another home game annually in order to protect our status in the overall landscape?
There's a lot that's broken with the ACC's revenue structure right now. Add flagship UNC tarnishing the league's sacred cow of academic integrity and the watering down of national traction by spreading games all over creation, and it's hard to blame anyone for fully exploring the waters.
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Complete agree, almost.
Jun 25, 2012, 1:50 PM
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The travel thing has little difference to the Big 12 move. Elsewise, you are correct. We are going to pay 25 mil either for the exit fee or through the means you listed.
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I'm not crazy about a Big XII move unless there's two more
Jun 25, 2012, 1:56 PM
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eastern schools along for the ride from the start. On the travel side though, at least if we're traveling 1000 miles it's more than likely to a school with a fan base that's actually excited about its football.
If the ACC could fix its revenue model, schedule, and division structure I'd just as soon stay put.
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No; he was different
Jun 25, 2012, 12:33 PM
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Dabo didn't say anything definite until he got the OK from his higher-ups. While he might have expressed a sentiment towards staying in the ACC, he also attached a "they're the boss; whatever they want, I'll do" clause to basically everything he said. I'm dubious that he's been working back-channels to try to go behind TDP's and JB's backs. Knowing those two men's personalities, they'd fire him immediately upon discovering such a thing. And rightly so.
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If it had been Bobby ten years ago they'd be gone by now.
Jun 25, 2012, 12:07 PM
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Also, they have many reasons to fire Jimbo starting with his not being a good coach.
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Bobby has 2 MNC's and numerous ACC championships ...
Jun 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Jimbo has a resume and a team that looks great in preseason polls.
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Yeah, the writer called Jimbo a highly successful coach.
Jun 25, 2012, 12:35 PM
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I didn't buy that either.
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What did Danny do?
Jun 25, 2012, 1:30 PM
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Same thing except he was trying to use IPTAY to influence the administration to build an athletic dorm. Everyone knew he was being insubordinate. We still loved him but he done us wrong!
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Bimbo is used to the SEC where FB coaches run the school.
Jun 25, 2012, 2:08 PM
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He needs to win the ACC before he starts bossing the admin around. I mean, this year they're the pre-season national champs, so maybe that has some leverage.
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