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Orange Blooded [4302]
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For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:33 PM
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Many people believe Clemson is poised for a "big season" in 2013....Would you rather stay in ACC through 2013 and take a run at undefeated in weaker ACC or go ahead and move to Big 12?
And yes, I know we still have the 2012 season, but we are definitely playing in the ACC this season so no question there.
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Re: For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:38 PM
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I think you answered your own question. If our goal is to win a NC, why stay in a conference with a weak SOS / rpi?
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110%er [5465]
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The problem is that a big season in 2013's ACC will hurt us
May 14, 2012, 12:38 PM
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from an SOS or even RPI (football probably going to an RPI with the new 4-team playoff) and we wouldn't make the playoff staying in the ACC. Also, it appears that there may be 4 power conferences (SEC, Big X11, Big Ten, PAC-12) that secure the playoff bids since automatic berths for the original six conferences will be done away with.
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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I thought the new system wouldn't start until 2014, thus
May 14, 2012, 12:40 PM
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the reason for my question.
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110%er [5465]
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you're right but it would still be in the mind of the voters
May 14, 2012, 12:44 PM
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so our position atop the polls will be hindered as well as the computer ranking after going through the ACC.
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Re: Not true
May 14, 2012, 12:50 PM
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You were ok under the old system. If the BCS has an RPI/SOS component, Clemson may not have been ok even if it took care of business.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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What do you think the Computer rankings are?
May 14, 2012, 12:54 PM
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Do you think that the voters don't take into account who you play and who you beat? RPI is a good measure of comparing the 65th and 70th team in the NCAA basketball tournmanet, but I think any idiot can tell the difference between the 4th and 14th team.
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Re: For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:40 PM
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Honestly get us the heck out of the ACC. We are third class citizens in the ACC now lets go to the big 12 and at least get some decent games and a some cash out of it.
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Re:We will not even be considered third class citizens in
May 14, 2012, 12:43 PM
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the Big 12 and neither will FSU.
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Would we be able to play for a NC with the ACC's RPI?
May 14, 2012, 12:40 PM
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Even if FSU bails now? How about if VT and NC State take a jump into the SEC?
Would it be possible to win a NC and not be able to do it from the Big 12?
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Orange Blooded [2220]
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As devoted an ACC member as we have been...
May 14, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Always the stepchild....
Never given respect in particular during Swofford power hold....
With BCS folding...our administration does need to secure avenues to keep us in the 64
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Orange Blooded [2220]
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Yes Big 12 is power conference
May 14, 2012, 12:47 PM
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But would you rather go to the valley to see Wake Forest or Texas?
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Would you rather pay to go to Salem or Austin??
May 14, 2012, 12:56 PM
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I think that is quite a large factor into the equation rather we like it or not. Fan support and travel costs are being dissected heavily I would assume.
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Re: I haven never been to Austin so I won't miss it. I
May 14, 2012, 1:00 PM
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doubt that it is much different from most other Southern cities.
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Re: Would you rather pay to go to Salem or Austin??
May 14, 2012, 1:05 PM
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As a student, I can drive to GT, FSU, UNC, Duke, NCST, FSU, VT, Wake, and Virginia. Even Maryland is driveable on fall break. That just leaves Miami and BC that students can't drive to. We join the Big 12 and that reverses to only having two games that we CAN drive to. Assuming Florida State and assuming students will drive anywhere on fall break.
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Re: Would you rather pay to go to Salem or Austin??
May 14, 2012, 1:12 PM
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by posting that stupid picture U have RUINED baseball Play-By-Play... PLEASE NEVER post photos during PBP.. thks
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Re: For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:44 PM
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could you imagine the officiating in the ACC games during the 2013 season if we announce we are leaving?
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Orange Blooded [3223]
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I'm tired of this chicken #### attitude
May 14, 2012, 12:44 PM
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"The ACC is weaker and therefore better for Clemson"
That is absurd. Want national respect? Play in a conference that immeadiately delivers that. Beating Duke, BC, Maryland, UNC, Wake Forest, and Syracuse only adds to the argument that you don't belong.
Want the program to regain national prominence? Beat teams that people think are better than you!!!
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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Agree totally. I was interested in how others felt....***
May 14, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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Lets beat the teams we are supposed to beat
May 14, 2012, 12:50 PM
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and everythign will take care of itself. Our problem isn't that we play the Dukes, BCs, Md, UNCs etc its that we have been regularly crapping the bed at least once a season against teams like that.
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what if we dont join the Big 12 until 2014?***
May 14, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:51 PM
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What if Swofford could pull off getting notre dame to join the acc? would that change anything?
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Orange Blooded [2220]
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Notre dame will stay in Big Ten eventually
May 14, 2012, 12:57 PM
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Swofford is not pulling Notre Dame...he's had ten years to do it and to no avail....
At this point the only way to save the ACC is for ND to come......it is all crumbling folks
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Re: Get PSU. Solidify, Ohio, W Va. and Eastern Ohio.***
May 14, 2012, 1:14 PM
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Re: Pa. W. Va. and Eastern Ohio***
May 14, 2012, 1:18 PM
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Re: For those wanting to head to Big 12....
May 14, 2012, 12:54 PM
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stay in the Swofford, ACC, N.C, Wood type refs conf.
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