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ACC: Hindsight is 20/20
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ACC: Hindsight is 20/20

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Mar 1, 2023, 8:58 AM

When you look at conference expansion, until Oklahoma and Texas joined the SEC and USC and UCLA joined the B1G, the ACC had done what (at the times) always looked like the better job with conference expansion than anyone else. Going as far back as Georgia Tech joining in 1983 and winning the national championship in 1990. Florida State and Miami were two of the strongest programs in the country when they joined the conference - easily two of the top five. Virginia Tech played for a national championship in 1999 (losing to FSU) and joined the ACC in 2004. These were ALL good moves until the programs took downturns. (And while the history might not have been recent, BC, Syracuse, and Pitt all had good football history - I do think they've had a tough time in the conference because of geography.)

Anyhow, with the success of the Big Ten Network and the SEC Network, and the departure of Maryland (replaced by a Louisville team that was seeing unprecedented program highs on the gridiron) because of the revenue gap, there were serious existential conference concerns about the revenue and about potential team departures (remember all of those "Clemson and FSU to the Big-12" rumors? - what a disaster that would have been). We got a media deal because of GOR which solidified the ACC at #3 in conference revenue. We later got more money and the ACCN because of the GOR, because of Notre Dame, and because we extended the ESPN contract until 2035. Yes, we have been left behind on money, but it guaranteed the stability and survival of the conference. And while football may drive the revenue now, I don't think many of us would want to be in another conference for any of our other sports.

My point is that most of the finger-pointing now (even at John Swofford) is misguided, because we were making sensible decisions at the time (and Swofford was doing exactly what the member university presidents were asking him to do).

While the ACC is behind the SEC and B1G (but ahead of the Big-12, even with their new contract, and will surely stay ahead of the Pac-12). And while people at FSU and Clemson may complain about money, football facilities with fire poles and slides and bowling alleys would seem to be awash in money - we just need to be smart.

What do we need to do to at least close the revenue gap? The conference does need uneven revenue payouts, so that the programs that make the playoffs are rewarded for what they put in the program. We already do have that (to a degree) but the conference needs to incentivize success in the revenue sports.

Jim Phillips talks about increasing revenue streams for the conference and I'm really not sure (outside of 100% market saturation with ACCN) you do that. I just don't know.

Finally, and the conference has done the 100% correct thing here. By holding out on playoff expansion, we are guaranteeing that the playoff media deal will go out to competitive bid. This won't close the revenue gap to the SEC and the B1G, but it will close the relative revenue gap, as that $30 million or so disparity will be a smaller percentage of the total media value.

Then we just need to sit tight until 2030 or so, and see where conference realignment and new media deals take us. It will be a different world then - streaming might be the way most people consume sports at that point. (Which is why the rumored Pac-12 Apple TV connection will be interesting.) We aren't leaving the ACC. We aren't violating the GOR. We don't know that the SEC would even want us. And we darn well know that ESPN isn't going to pay us more to go to the SEC when they can pay us less to be a crown jewel in the ACC.

One last thing re: the SEC. Everyone acts like Greg Sankey is some evil genius - emphasis on genius. He may be evil - his participation on the playoff committee while holding inside information about SEC expansion should go in textbooks as egregiously unethical behavior. But this is coming back to bit him in the backside.

Sankey knew everyone would benefit from playoff expansion, but he wanted ESPN to get an under-market playoff deal, so more money would be available to the SEC when they renegotiated (with the addition of OU and Texas). That did not happen. ESPN will have to spend more for whatever playoff rights they likely split with other media partners. They will have less money left over for the SEC.

Point being, ESPN has already suggested that they may not be willing to pay more to the SEC with the addition of Oklahoma and Texas. I do think they will increase the payout a little, with an increased inventory of games (two new teams and the SEC going to a nine-game conference schedule increases the conference inventory by sixteen conference games - not sure how many slots ESPN has left to show those games). But I don't think ESPN will be increasing the per-team payout in the SEC with this move. Since the deals are signed and the SEC is locked in with their exclusive media partner, they have absolutely no leverage (does that remind you of... the ACC? it should!).

Additionally, while the money looks great today, the SEC's long-term deal with ESPN is already behind the B1G and the B1G will renew their deal before the SEC's is up. The SEC put all their eggs in the ESPN, just like the ACC, and that deal will look worse with each passing year. It might be pretty good - and it will always be pretty good - but they will drop further and further behind the B1G.

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Re: ACC: Hindsight is 20/20

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Mar 1, 2023, 10:13 AM

The ACC GOR was seen as a genius power move at the time. It made conference membership a one-way door and protected the existing conference members from sniping.

What we *didn't* see coming is the SEC and B1G sniping major programs from what were probably considered untouchable conferences at the time (well, maybe not so much the Big XII), plus the hyperinflation in TV rights deals. When the GOR became real, we were ahead of the game. Now we are hopelessly behind and ESPN has no incentive to renegotiate TV dollars.

FWIW I think I'd almost rather be in the B1G than the SEC. But that's primarily because I just hate the SEC and everything about it.

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Mar 1, 2023, 10:40 AM



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Mar 1, 2023, 10:45 AM

ESPN was not going to create a whole new network for the ACC without a long-term deal.

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I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable

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Mar 1, 2023, 11:15 AM

and competitive programs, along with attractive media markets - where the league and its leadership screwed up was how we scheduled it all from there.

The amorphous named Atlantic and Coastal divisions didn't make any sense to an outsider for starters. It forced too many annual non-traction games (Clem vs BC, Syr, Wake every single season), strangling off more interesting competition on a more regular basis during the regular season, all for the end goal of trying to get a big name match-up for one single game in December. Dreams of a home run FSU vs Miami for the league title game drove that boat in a way.

Since 2005, we've offered 13 weeks of watered down Saturdays to the casual sports fan, and forced every program to load up their schedules annually with games that no one on either side really cared a whole ton about. Finally that's going away starting in 2023, but the damage has already been done over so many years of this.

The only path forward that I see for the ACC's football heavy programs to start bridging the growing revenue gap in earnest, at this point, is to recreate divisions with the footballers in one and the coat tailers in another. This would open the door for ESPN to up its rights fees, as we would be able to offer a significant bump in nationally-relevant marketable games more often during the seasons. Keep the Notre Dame deal in place, but have them schedule 3-4 games vs the upper division annually and only 1-2 vs the other.

Further, we could expand to 9 league games, where the lower division team would have a 5th league road game every season at an upper division venue. This would also raise the media value some with the extra inventory, while allowing the premier programs to maintain a robust Power 5 OOC slate as they wouldn't have to account for one less home game. The football vested schools have larger venues with larger fan support - why not leverage that for everyone's benefit.

Lastly, this would allow the ACC to expand some more, with little room at the top (maybe a West Va) but a few spots open in the lower division, which could offer a few geographically attractive G5 programs an in for football and other sports without diluting payouts for any others.

The make-up of the ACC isn't bad at all, for football and all other sports. The problem is that we have handcuffed ourselves, willingly, by squelching off too many attractive games every season in hopes of a single big bang at season's end.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable

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Mar 1, 2023, 11:20 AM

The name of the divisions has nothing to do with anything. If the football schools (Miami, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Florida St.), held up their end of the bargain, it would have been a better situation.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable


Mar 1, 2023, 12:09 PM

The B1G would say different. They ditched a similar Legends and Leaders hodgepodge makeup aimed at a big final game after only a few seasons and went straight East / West even though they were lopsided in strengths. Doing so helped them A) offer better regular season games more often, B) maintain geographic sense and longer running rivalries, and C) make it easier for the casual sports fan to keep up.

The argument could easily be made that the ACC's poor scheduling robbed energy from those programs with too many games each season that just fell flat. In Ga Tech's case, they gave up on trying to build and invest in football when they went gimmicky with Paul Johnson. Them downsizing the seating for the Clemson game last year is as clear an indication as any what they've inflicted on themselves.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable


Mar 1, 2023, 2:14 PM

Resigning the divisions would not have come remotely to improving the TV ratings or revenue for the ACC.

The ACC's problems are:

Smaller enrollments that larger state flagship schools like in the Big Ten and SEC, plus several small private schools.

Part of the footprint residing in SEC country. Also, part of the footprint in the Northeast having smaller schools competing with oro teams.

A lack of big name programs that draw ratings.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable

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Mar 1, 2023, 4:15 PM

The maths are quite different actually on the volume of premium content the ACC could have provided with a realignment of divisions along the lines I outlined, which also addresses the small school / small fan base issue that is indeed a problem, and weight on our fortunes.

Fans of the bigger programs are going to tune in regardless. Where we messed up was saddling these bigger programs with too many games each season versus smaller programs that just don't align well competitively or geographically. Playing BC, Syracuse, and Wake every single year instead of mixing in a UNC, Va Tech, and Miami alongside set the conference back. The simple step of eliminating divisions entirely in itself will generate around 40% more nationally relevant games annually for the league. That's huge. The falloff on the flip side is minimal, as these games just weren't moving the needle enough to begin with. The ACCN and RSN slate would still be there and deliver similar lower numbers. But now we'll have more games with better aligned programs on the higher end, which is what does move the needle.

Realigning into a fully vested footballers division with another for the partially vested, and scheduling accordingly, would generate yet another significant boost over the coming no division format. The lesser programs (smaller schools, stadiums, alumni bases) just don't generate much energy for a media partner, so concentrating more of those together, while concentrating more of the upper level together, ups the ante in a measurable way.

The ACC has big time programs, just not as many as the SEC or B1G, who also don't have the numbers of smaller schools like we do. That's why this approach adds up the way it does. It lumps the bigger programs together in a way that takes advantage of that, and the smaller programs together in a way that minimizes their drag.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable

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Mar 1, 2023, 1:34 PM [ in reply to I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable ]

Great comments.

I'm not defending the divisions, but we didn't have any natural divisions. A North-South split would have split up the North Carolina schools. And there was understandable opposition to a split into one with the original seven and another with the Big East and recent addition schools. I think at the time (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the NCAA at the time required divisions in order to have a championship game. I think divisions made sense to most people, but then made less sense over time.

While in principle I 100% agree about nine-game conference schedules, the Notre Dame deal (and the rivalry games with SEC schools) make that problematic.

I can't speak for anyone else in the conference, but I really like Clemson's scheduling philosophy, with eight conference games, 2 P5 non-con games, 1 G5 non-con game, and the in-state FCS game. If we went to nine games, you just know that we'd lose the second P5 non-con unless we were playing ND.

I appreciate your well thought out conference plan. I think ESPN would say "thanks but no thanks." I also don't like the idea of adding G5 programs. It's already turning the Big-12 into the AAC. West Virginia is certainly more appealing than when it was all about media markets, but I don't see them moving the revenue needle. The big problem is that there are really no more programs that can move that needle.

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Mar 1, 2023, 5:02 PM

Just a few items to add here to this.

On expanding to 9 games, it would only work for us and others similarly if that 9th game was always a home game for an upper division from the lower division. That would be part of the reward for taking on a tougher schedule up top, and for investing at the level we and others do in football. This game would replace either a current G5 contest that we do today, or one of the FCS slots. It would have no impact on quality P5 OOC opportunities, at least for us and similar programs.

On adding a few current G5 programs, the goal would be to flesh out the lower division, while adding competition in other sports. They definitely would not be part of the upper division, nor part of the upper division pay arrangement. UConn comes to mind here, as does Memphis and possibly a USF or Temple. They offer strengths in other sports, and are invested enough in football to hang with those programs that would fill in a lower division.

While West Va might not offer a big market, they are a big draw. I agree that adding them alone with no other factors involved wouldn't move the needle, but as part of an upper tier division mix, they would rank 5th today in the ACC in terms of star power, so it would help flesh out that end. In a way this whole model is based on addition by subtraction, then adding the subtracted back in with their own deal and scheduling model.

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Re: I agree with you on who we brought in being marketable

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Mar 1, 2023, 6:05 PM

I'd like to see us improve our strength of schedule to help us with making the playoffs and all of that, but I also like us playing an in-state FCS school. It helps them out financially and gives our reserves some much needed playing time. The FCS schools also don't just come in and roll over, but play hard, look at Furman last year. They never quit, that was actually a great game for them.

As to the revenue issues, I don't know what's best and what option works. I do wonder, how would having an extra $20-25 Million a year impact us? In football I don't think it would, but it would benefit other sports.

I don't think current TV contracts or conference alignments will stop Clemson football from getting back on top, after all it didn't stop us from climbing the mountain twice already.

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Re: ACC: Hindsight is 20/20

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Mar 1, 2023, 8:03 PM

"We must go to the SEC" is one of the weirdest corporate psyops i've ever seen. Like what is the point of leaving as the "crown jewel" just so the university can get a few more bucks for stuff not football. We aren't paying players salaries anyways so it makes zero sense. It really is a lemming mentality with no being able to articulate exactly why its a desperate need. They just see other bluechip programs banding together into a couple conference, and theyve talked themselves into massive FOMO for no reason.

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