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Tuesday March 11, 2008

Ray Ray

Ray Ray
Like many controversies in our world today, this Ray Ray McElrathbey deal is filled with two sides and a lot of half truths. Here is my take:

1-I don’t know Ray Ray McElrathbey personally and have only met him a few times but admire him for taking on a huge responsibility. He is a likeable young man who is bright and has a magnetic personality. Like many of you, I donated to the trust fund and would do it again and would encourage anyone to do it again.

2-I have been around Fahmarr McElrathbey a few times and he is a great young man. I think he may have been the biggest winner in all of this. Fahmarr has made a big impression on a bunch of people in our community.

3-I feel bad for what has happened to Ray Ray when it comes to football. He is obviously a talent but like many student-athletes, he had to endure a lot in terms on the field issues. He was red-shirted as a freshman and that can be difficult to accept. He had a hard time adjusting to the secondary which happens to a lot of former high school quarterbacks. He was moved to running back where he looked better but then tore his knee.

4-Adversity seems to be the norm for Ray Ray and all of the responsibilities of guardian, brother, student, athlete and knee rehab made for a difficult time and balancing act. I know I was not prepared to be a provider at the age of 21.

5-Rob Spence and Susan Spence have downplayed their role in helping Fahmarr. They have been incredible in their giving and in a world where so many seek so much credit, this family has selflessly given more than anyone would know without credit.

I want to be fair to Ray Ray and I feel bad that he would have had to compete for playing time at a position as deep as running back is at Clemson. James Davis, C.J. Spiller, Jamie Harper and Andre Ellington are perhaps as good as any four backs on one team in America. Plus Ray Ray was having to learn to do it coming off of knee rehab.

The difficulty could have been seen when he was beaten out by Sadat Chambers last season. If you can’t beat out Chambers then you can’t beat out Davis, Spiller, Harper or Ellington.

I also understand James Davis’ original frustration and James will say what he is thinking at all times but it is clear Clemson is meeting its obligation.

In fact, I want to be clear here. Clemson has met its end of the obligation more so than Ray Ray has met his. Clemson should be held more accountable because they are adults and know how to deal with things and Ray Ray is still a young person. I don’t want to get too much into that and please don’t e-mail me with specific questions but this has not been the fairy tale situation it could have been.

In the end, Clemson offered Ray Ray a chance to graduate and he will do that. They offered him a graduate assistant scholarship if he wants to stay. I hope that is what he will do because Fahmarr would be better here. I doubt Ray Ray will stay and think he still wants to play and may transfer to a smaller school.

Let’s also be perfectly clear here on another subject. Clemson does not run off players because they are third or fourth stringers. In fact Paul Macko was an original walk-on but has been on scholarship too and they never pulled his deal despite a lack of playing time. If you do what the coaches ask then you will never get your scholarship revoked. Go to class, work out, be a good citizen, obey team rules, get to meetings on time, pay attention and do what is asked and everything will work out.

Clemson may be close being over the 85 scholarship limit but this more about other things. In fact Clemson has not been at 85 in any year Bowden has been there until he adds the walk-ons to the list.

Again, things are different for Ray Ray but the staff has been accommodating to his needs. Clemson has been good to Ray Ray and for Ray Ray. The staff and community should be very proud what they have done for him and his family.

In the end I think Ray Ray will be fine. He is a bright young man who has charisma and certainly has resolve.

My point of this blog is to point out that Bowden and the staff have been unfairly criticized. I understand both sides of the story but they have been more than fair here. You can criticize Bowden and Terry Don Phillips all you want but these are not irrational, unintelligent people. They both had all of the facts in this case. Both have not talked about some of the issues off of the field in this case. But I can tell you that both have a long line of credibility when it comes to how they have treated student-athletes in their careers and to criticize them in this case without all of the facts is not fair.

Bowden has to be fair to Ray Ray but he also has to be fair to the other 84 scholarship players too.



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Comments:

Mickey,
I think this was well said and I couldn't agree with you more. I am a huge Ray Ray fan and would not want to see him anywhere but Clemson. I believe giving him an opportunity to graduate is the most important aspect of this whole situation. I hope he does what is best for him and his family.

Posted by gtyoung10 on March 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM EDT #

I agree 100%. Clemson has done well by Ray Ray, and have even gone beyond what would be expected with the GA option presented. I imagine it is hard to accept when your time is done playing something you love so dear, but this decision was not made on a whim. I support Clemson and TB/TDP fully on this, and hope for nothing but the best for Ray Ray and Fahmarr.

Posted by Tiger4lif3 on March 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM EDT #

Good, well thought out artical. Unlike that other school in Columbia, Clemson does not revoke scholarships based on playing time. Hopefully, Ray Ray will stay on at Clemson. He has to realize that he has no shot at the pros. But he does have a shot at a Masters degree, which Clemson is willing to give him.

Posted by eflandtigerfan on March 11, 2008 at 12:05 PM EDT #

Good, well thought out artical. Unlike that other school in Columbia, Clemson does not revoke scholarships based on playing time. Hopefully, Ray Ray will stay on at Clemson. He has to realize that he has no shot at the pros. But he does have a shot at a Masters degree, which Clemson is willing to give him.

Posted by eflandtigerfan on March 11, 2008 at 12:06 PM EDT #

If his scholarship is not being pulled because he is a 4th stringer then exactly why is it being pulled?

Posted by SaltyTiger on March 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM EDT #

Mickey --- If Ray Ray is as bright as you say he is, he will realize that his future is not on the football field and that uprooting his family in order to chase a dream by stepping down in competition is not in his own best interest nor that of his little brother. Once he took the admirable step of accepting responsibility for his brother, Ray Ray put his college football future in jeopardy. Let's hope he doesn't now put his college education in jeopardy as well.

Posted by apextiger on March 11, 2008 at 12:37 PM EDT #

If Clemson had only 75 players on scholarship, would RAY RAY have lost his?

Also, does the NCAA have a position on taking a player off scholarship and still paying for his education while giving his scholarship to another athlete?

Posted by ramtiger71 on March 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM EDT #

Answer to first question from apextiger -

If Clemson had only 75 scholarships, Ray Ray would have been unlikely to receive an offer from CU out of HS.

Posted by tigerP94 on March 11, 2008 at 01:22 PM EDT #

tigerP94 --- that question was from ramtiger71, not from me. However, I believe ramtiger was asking ... if Clemson was using only 75 of their available 85 scholarships, would they not have kept Ray Ray on scholarship using one of the ten available. What do you think?

Posted by apextiger on March 11, 2008 at 01:32 PM EDT #

I was a football manager at Clemson. Every year I saw fine young men have to face the facts that their dreams of playing significant time for the tigers wasn't gonna happen. Some due to injury, some due to the skill level at their position, some due to attitude or work ethic. Some quit, some transferred some stuck it out and got their education. Ray Ray has a great opportunity. He is a great kid, even if he hasn't done what everyone hoped. But, if it wasn't for his brother, really would anyone care about this? It happens all the time. Clemson takes care of their own as long as they can-- no matter how the press spins it. Remember where the journalism schools are - UNC, UGA and Coot U. for 3. Do you expect them to give us a break?

Posted by tonybenson62003 on March 11, 2008 at 01:36 PM EDT #

I think Clemson met its obligation to him, but Tommy Bowden has not handled the media perception of this well at all. His ducking the questions gives the appearance of guilt and wrongdoing. Bowden hasn't always been great with the media and this is another slipup IMO.

Posted by tigerdawg on March 11, 2008 at 02:13 PM EDT #

From the way I understood the situation Ray Ray has the option of staying on a football scholarship and being the 5th string runningback. What the Bowden told him was if you want to see playing time and try to advance your future in football/free up a scholarship for me you should transfer. The third option was stay on as a grad assistant and finish at Clemson.

Posted by kfast600 on March 11, 2008 at 02:20 PM EDT #

Most important is that Ray Ray be treated fairly and that Ray Ray meet his obligations. I believe that he has been assessed and treated fairly; however, I agree with a previous poster that the media and general public perception is not good, and that is concerning. I have heard about it even here in Georgia from non-Clemson people, and the perception is not good. My understanding is that a few influential (coaching) personnel in Atlanta are upset and are not inclined to support Clemson's recruiting efforts in Atlanta as they feel Ray Ray was not treated fairly. I want Clemson always to be shown in a good light, and, despite that I believe that the coaching staff bent over backwards to help him and to treat him fairly, I am frustrated that, regardless, we may pay a price for this. I certainly hope not.

Posted by Tigergal85 on March 11, 2008 at 07:27 PM EDT #

Tigerdawg (ultimate oxymoron-but that is beside the point)-I have NO info re anything about this other than this board's rumor mill & what Mickey has just blogged. BUT-let's say you read between the lines of what Mickey has just written-what would you want CTB to do? Answer the media's questions like this ?: "Well, Ray Ray is a fine fellow and we admire him for what he has done but despite all we do for him he won't do what we ask him to do, he doesn't participate, he is extremely bitter to the point of being a cancer because of playing time, & he isn't getting playing time because he won't/can't do what we feel we need him to do in order to earn PT."
As a leader you make the best decision you can based on ALL the info-which you do not have-& if you are a leader (ie: Not Steve Spurrier)-you take the heat for your decision without running over someone/everyone with a bus.

Posted by kktigers on March 11, 2008 at 08:11 PM EDT #

Most important is that Ray Ray be treated fairly and that Ray Ray meet his obligations. I believe that he has been assessed and treated fairly; however, I agree with a previous poster that the media and general public perception is not good, and that is concerning. I have heard about it even here in Georgia from non-Clemson people, and the perception is not good. My understanding is that a few influential (coaching) personnel in Atlanta are upset and are not inclined to support Clemson's recruiting efforts in Atlanta as they feel Ray Ray was not treated fairly. I want Clemson always to be shown in a good light, and, despite that I believe that the coaching staff bent over backwards to help him and to treat him fairly, I am frustrated that, regardless, we may pay a price for this. I certainly hope not.

Posted by Tigergal85 on March 11, 2008 at 08:31 PM EDT #

You have to be wrong, Mickey...Phil Korncoot said Bowden is da debil.

Phil...if you read this...please stop trying to spin this story in an effort to make Clemson more comparable to USC...we're Clemson and we're better than that.

Posted by MDT1GER on March 12, 2008 at 08:43 AM EDT #

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